The Steel Guitar Forum

Posted: **16 Apr 2002 8:07 am**

Does anyone know if the aluminum/magnesium alloy frame of the Fender 1000 & 2000 are duplicate castings (same dimensions)?

Thanks in advance, Rick

Posted: **16 Apr 2002 9:11 am**

Not sure about your question?..... the 1000
was a S10 & the 2000 a D10?? so they couldn't be the same??

Posted: **16 Apr 2002 9:39 am**

Actually the Fender 400 is the S-8, and the 1000 is the D-8. I'm not sure if the 1000 and 2000 share the same dimensions.

Posted: **16 Apr 2002 10:32 am**

Yes, the 1000 was a double 8 and the 2000 was a double 10. It would then appear that the aluminum frame is wider on the 2000. But Fender may have shaved the body (on the D-10) down to accomadate the existing D-8 frame.

Not sure.

400 S-8

1000 D-8

800 S-10

2000 D-10

carl

Posted: **16 Apr 2002 2:09 pm**

Hi guys, I stand corrected, yes, the 1000 was the D8 (my buddy had one for years & I finally convinced him to get a D10 w/KLs!) I think I tried a 2000 once (was sunburst.... were they all?) I remember it being so wide
it was an issue for me. From my fading memories of it (at least 30 yrs~ago) I would say it was wider than the 1000! There must be
someone on the forum with one and a tape measure willing to settle this question!

Posted: **17 Apr 2002 2:55 am**

I am not too sure, but I think the D-10 Fender 2000 is 36 inches long and 16 inches wide.(Front to Back)

Roger

Posted: **17 Apr 2002 4:11 am**

The 2000 was bit wider to compensate for the
additional strings, Yes the 2000 was only available in Sunburst..

I prefered the blonde 1000 with the almag frame. The early model.

Hi Roger.

You cn always tell the difference
The 1000 gives the player a Hernia.
The 2000 gives the player a "Double Hernia"

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 17 April 2002 at 06:34 PM.]

Posted: **18 Apr 2002 8:00 am**

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>The 2000 was bit wider to compensate for the
additional strings, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Mr. Jody Carver, are you sure about this? The Fender 1000 frame was already quite wide. It would seem that it could accommodate four more strings very easily. Why would Fender go to the expense to make a larger mold or die?

I have an early, blonde 1000 as you described. I've had a metal polisher repolish the frame;___it looks like new. This guitar really stays in tune well; but bad on the G# to A, .0115" string. I use it to play the Ralph Mooney stuff.

Rick[This message was edited by Rick Collins on 18 April 2002 at 09:01 AM.]

Posted: **18 Apr 2002 8:21 pm**

Rick,,to my expierience the original 2000 was wider than the 1000,,maybe about 2 inches
overall. This would be a complete re-tooling
to make the 2000 wider.

I had a 2000 which was at least 2 inches in width wider than the 1000...but you may be right...from what I have seen of the 2000 recently they do look liie the same size..

Maybe these old eyes are playing tricks on me
I may have the original specs of the two guitars in question...and I will take a look
If I find the info ,,,I'll shoot it along to you..

Jody PS My checking proved that the 2000 was originally 2" inches wider than the 1000.
Fender (Leo) changed the specs as the re-tooling was costly,,,,in addition to cases having to be re-sized.

So you see,,,I was about 2 inches right,,,and
then you came along and corrected me. Never
too old to learn,,,,,thanks for your comments
appreciate it..man what an inch or two will do.

Be well...[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 19 April 2002 at 05:38 AM.]

Posted: **20 Apr 2002 9:31 am**

Hey Jody, Your correct on the size. 2000 was larger than the 1000. If mine was'nt so hard to get to, I'd measure the darn thing. I had mine re-painted to Lake Placid Blue, with chrome pedals. Installed 4 k-levers. It's still a bute wherever it is in storage.

Carl West
Emmons LaGrand lll

Posted: **20 Apr 2002 4:38 pm**

Carl
You tell em,,,tell em about how you and I showed old Leo how to wind a pickup,,,go on
tell em buddy.

I knew the answer,,,just didnt want to start a war,,,,,thats easy to do on this Forum.

Im getting too old to fight..my war stories are from the days of CBS.

And I know Leo modified your Dual Showman as well,,how do I know??? he told me so.

Posted: **21 Apr 2002 11:48 am**

Jody . . you rascall . . your just look'in fer trouble . . . Besides I lost your E-mail address . . in a puter crash ! and yea yea yea, I only watched Leo . . he was a genius
and great person.

Carl West

Posted: **21 Apr 2002 2:30 pm**

I knew the answer,,,just didnt want to start a war,,,,,thats easy to do on this Forum.

Not with me it isn't Mr. Jody. I posted the question seeking information, you gave it to me, and I believe you. My question, "are you sure?" was to reconfirm your original response.

You're a good man,___enjoy you're writing.

Rick

Posted: **21 Apr 2002 3:19 pm**

Rick
You dont have to call me mister,,my dad was mister,,,I'm just Jody. And I know you were not trying to start a controversy,,,I had a smile when I posted that. Peace my friend.

I just wanted to add a little bit to the post you made...and wanted Carl to jump in.

Hey Carl,,,Leo told me many things about you.
One was...Those two West fellers play great.
I said "two West feller's???? who's two West feller's ...he said,,,,why Speedy and Carl & they both play great and they play Fenders as well,,,,,said,,,hey boy..how come you caint play as good as those feller's.

I said Leo,,,they are stealing my licks and taking all the credit,,,

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 22 April 2002 at 05:00 PM.]