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Like Shootin' Fish in a Haystack

Posted: 9 Apr 2002 9:31 am
by Birney Bull
I've been banging my head against my steel axe a little over a year now, and whenever I begin telling someone what it's like, I struggle to condense it into a few sentences. But even *that* is hard!

So as a fitting observation of my first year of steelin', I thought ask you pro's to share your thoughts on describing the pedal steel guitar, and its difficulty, to people unfamiliar with it. Natch, I'll go first!

I gave up on this obvious first idea long ago:

“It's like patting your head while rubbing your stomach, ... while walking and chewing gum, ... while twirling hula hoops around your knees ... in opposite directions and at different speeds.”
True enough, but that's already too
long, and you haven't even mentioned
fingerpicks yet!

Others I've sorted through include:

"Easy as pie R squared."
But square pies really aren't harder to
eat than round ones! It sounds good,
though!

"Like taking candy from a cobra."
Or "from a Mafia hit man," etc.

"It's a piece of cake, really, ... pound cake, anyway. Well, actually, it's more like pounding your head against a wall."
Nuff said!

"Well, imagine how hard the piano would be if instead of lowest to highest, the keys were laid out in some secret order that no one would tell you. It's sort of like that, only the order changes every time you push something."
Too long again.

But my favorite, and consequent nominee, is:

"Shucks, it's like shootin' fish in a haystack."
"Shootin' fish in a swamp" might be more
accurate, but the mixed metaphor
referencing the "needle in the haystack"
is just too good!

Other nominees?

Birney

Posted: 9 Apr 2002 11:20 am
by Steve Feldman
I'm no pro, but I do stay away from gum-chewing when trying to play...

Posted: 9 Apr 2002 11:30 am
by Joerg Hennig
Gosh, sounds like you must really be struggling, Birney. I had more trouble learning the piano - so much that after a year or so, I gave up. The steel for me came A LOT easier.
But if you´re looking for metaphors - how about: "Crossing the street with a candy in your mouth"? Image

Posted: 9 Apr 2002 12:24 pm
by Dave Van Allen
it does seem like a moving target sometimes...

an old phrase about a "rolling donut" comes to mind...

Posted: 9 Apr 2002 12:53 pm
by Bill Llewellyn
Like doing brain surgery while blindfolded.

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Posted: 9 Apr 2002 1:05 pm
by Earl Foote
I tried bangin' my head on my steel as well. It really made for some long gigs. Then someone explained the use of a bar and picks and my playing has since greatly improved. Image

I think fiddle is a really tough instrument to learn. I tried long ago but gave up. I've thought about taking it up again but I'm not gonna put my wife through that!


Posted: 9 Apr 2002 4:40 pm
by Jimmie Misenheimer
All you have to do is think of four different things at once - at least at first. Tell 'em to try that for awhile... Jimmie

Posted: 11 Apr 2002 12:43 pm
by Birney Bull
<SMALL>All you have to do is think of four different things at once</SMALL>
More like six, don't you think? I'm just starting to learn to use the third and fourth knee levers, which means learning not to foul up the volume pedal, so I think each hand, each foot, and each knee require independent control. (Assuming your amp and effects are not causing problems.) (And also assuming ... [on and on] Image)

Posted: 11 Apr 2002 1:13 pm
by Erv Niehaus
It all comes together with the following three things:
practice
practice
& practice
Nobody said it was going to be easy!
Uff-Da!

Posted: 11 Apr 2002 3:44 pm
by Andy Greatrix
Playing steel is like
Trying to make love
blind-folded, standing up
on a hammock.

Posted: 11 Apr 2002 3:57 pm
by Steve Feldman
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>Playing steel is like
Trying to make love
blind-folded, standing up
on a hammock.</SMALL><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't understand - what's your point!?!

Posted: 11 Apr 2002 4:19 pm
by Donny Hinson
Playing steel is easy...trying to stay away from it is the hard part! Image

Posted: 11 Apr 2002 5:21 pm
by Jimmie Misenheimer
You may be right B.B., but I can't count to six - I've got all of this other stuff to think about!!! Jimmie

Posted: 11 Apr 2002 7:39 pm
by LARRY COLE
Is Andy trying to say playing steel is kinky?

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Posted: 12 Apr 2002 11:25 am
by frank rogers
Let's mix some more metaphors, this is more fun than you can shake a barrel of monkeys at.

Posted: 12 Apr 2002 11:35 am
by jerry wallace
Well after 30+ years of playing PSG, evertime I think I have just about mastered the both hands, both feet and both heads, a sweet little thing in a pair of tight jeans dances by and everthing seems to get harder and more difficult... Image

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Posted: 12 Apr 2002 9:04 pm
by Steven Welborn
I thought trying to play the cello was difficult so...since I already played guitar, I decided to tune it to 4ths instead of 5ths, forget the bow and play it like a miniature stand up bass, which was much easier and more fun untill the neck snapped intwo from the increased tension. Fortunately the music store from which it was rented took it back with no complaints(they assumed the structural failure was due to it's cheap plywood construction Image). I cant think of any classical instrument as complicated and challenging to one's mental/physical coordination as PSG. At least in the beginning stages that is. Sure's aint no "turkey shoot"...and I've played plenty a turkeys too. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Steven Welborn on 12 April 2002 at 10:10 PM.]</p></FONT><FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Steven Welborn on 12 April 2002 at 10:13 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 13 Apr 2002 7:22 am
by Joey Ace
Erv's right. "Practice, Practice, Practice."
Wake Up & Smell the Roses!

sure we all have excuses, but
Six of one is worth a dime a dozen.


Ya gotta Burn the midnight oil at both ends.

The Steel may be a Pandora's box of worms or a Minefield waiting to happen but it's not Brain Science or Rocket Surgery.

We're all marching to the beat of a dead horse and we'll burn that bridge when we come to it!

Time to grab the bull by the horns and run with it.

I admit sometimes I feel I'm running around like a chicken with it's legs cut off,

but I've buttered my bread, so I now have to lie in it.

<I> think I'll go practice...

I'm still <B>"a bit green behind the ears"...
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-j0ey-<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Joey Ace on 14 April 2002 at 03:28 PM.]</p></FONT>