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Topic: Ballpark value - Sho-Bud Pro I |
Atom Schmitt
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Posted 8 Nov 2013 9:39 am |
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I'm not sure I can really bear to part with my first PSG, but I've been thinking of selling it since I've got a ton of friends who've been asking me if I would, and I have more steels than I need right now, and a little less money than I'd like at the same time.
Problem is, I have no idea what it's worth. It's in decent shape, although it's been gigged a ton. It was clearly a 3x4 at one point, but then someone took off the RKR lever before I got it and made a bunch of other questionable copedent choices. When it came back to me I re-set it up for the Emmons copedent and had Bill Rudolph add the lever back and give it some much needed TLC. Plays like a champ now, sounds like a million bucks.
I'm not sure just how old it is, but I know it's on the newer end of the spectrum for a Pro I. It's not a rack-and-barrel setup - rather, it's a triple raise double lower changer with the nylon tuning nuts. And I know there's pot metal because I broke one bracket and had to replace it already. Other than that it's in pretty good shape, although it's obviously been used plenty. I mean, I've put at least 200 gigs on it in the last 2 years myself, let alone whatever else whoever had it before me did.
To be honest, I'm not sure I should even entertain the notion of selling it. If it's not really worth much I should probably hang onto it, but if it is, maybe I'd be better off as I do have a pair of other guitars, including another Sho Bud. |
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Tom Wolverton
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Carpinteria, CA
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Posted 8 Nov 2013 10:22 am
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I'll refer you to the last sentence of your 2nd parapraph.
Unless you have an ex-wife or the IRS chasing your wallet, I'd keep it. Probably only get about $1500 for it. You'll easily spend that much chasing the "Good Tone Fairy" on a different PSG.
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 8 Nov 2013 11:34 am
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Some awesome exact advice from Tom!!!!!
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Atom Schmitt
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 8 Nov 2013 11:54 am
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I should have also mentioned I have a pretty finite amount of space.
I may just sell an acoustic guitar to recoup some of what was spent this month on steel guitars, though.
This is what I'm up against in my practice space right now... I'm expecting a call from A&E for the next season of Hoarders any day now... The mountain in the corner does a good job of concealing 2 more steels, 3-4 guitars, and maybe 5 amps. Probably a couple pedal boards. And you don't even see the 4 guitars at my house, or the shelves full of spare pedals/boxes/speakers.
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Jeff Heard
From:
Lopez Island, Washington, USA
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Posted 8 Nov 2013 2:21 pm
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| That Professional is a beaut! |
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Kevin Mincke
From:
Farmington, MN (Twin Cities-South Metro) USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2013 12:46 pm
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| Nice Adam! |
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Atom Schmitt
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 11 Nov 2013 5:48 pm
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| Jeff Heard wrote: |
| That Professional is a beaut! |
Thanks - that's one of the new arrivals. It's since moved to my living room, where I'm going to have to put in some serious time on it to learn the C6 neck.
This is the Pro I in question... as I've spent some more time with the incoming Sho-Bud and I've put a few gigs on the new Williams, I do sort of wonder what the value of having a 3rd steel could really be. I don't really know, to be honest. Although for now it is set up in the practice space and the guy I share that space with is working his way through a Herby Wallace book.
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 11 Nov 2013 8:42 pm
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From seeing them go by here, I'd keep it, not because it makes sense to have 3 pedal steels (you posh-living showoff...), but because it would seem a shame to let it go for what it's currently worth.
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Atom Schmitt
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 11 Nov 2013 9:37 pm
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
| From seeing them go by here, I'd keep it, not because it makes sense to have 3 pedal steels (you posh-living showoff...), but because it would seem a shame to let it go for what it's currently worth. |
I don't know if posh is the right word for it, especially given that I'm single with no kids so I don't have much of anything else to pay for. But, that very sentiment of yours is why I have so much junk accumulated in that practice space. Years of jumping at good deals I couldn't pass up... and now lately, years of not being able to sell anything without taking a huge loss. Which is something I'm really only likely to do if I'm in desperate need of the cash.
It really is a bummer, but part of me wonders if it's ever going to change too. I used to hang out on The Gear Page a bit more, and there'd be blues lawyers buying a new Two Rock every time they came out with an updated amp, at like $5k a pop, and it was pretty simple to flip the old one, so there was a fairly robust used market of stuff like that trickling down, and the manufacturers were still selling a ton of new amps. Everyone was always sort of trading up. Nowadays? I'm not sure anyone's selling anything, anywhere.
That said, at this point, I probably could use the money, because I'm not feeling this posh thing whatsoever right now. I spent a little more than I could afford on the two new steels, with the expectation that something would get sold to cover the gap. I'm just no longer sure that something should be my Sho-Bud - as I said before, I have one more acoustic guitar than I really need... |
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mike nolan
From:
Forest Hills, NY USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2013 10:42 pm
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I don't know if your Williams is an S-10 or a D-10. It is a good idea to have a light S-10 around for flying. I had a Sho~Bud that was a twin of yours. In the right case with a light set of legs, it was about 44 lbs. I gigged it a lot and never had any trouble with it.... and I never even broke one of the lever mounts.
Sold it.... 6 months later I replaced it with a '75 Sho~Bud S-10.... black, of course. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 12 Nov 2013 4:54 am
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In that case, yeah, the S-10 would be the first to go: but if I needed money, I'd lay out a matrix of last use on the X axis and most valuable on the Y, and start selling at the corner.
EDIT: Chris Ivey points out I overjargon: I mean lay out a graph, with the vertical element being "how much can I get for it" and the horizontal element being "when did I last use this?"
If you need money or space, start by selling stuff at the most money/least played corner of the graph.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Atom Schmitt
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 12 Nov 2013 10:00 am
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| mike nolan wrote: |
I don't know if your Williams is an S-10 or a D-10. It is a good idea to have a light S-10 around for flying. I had a Sho~Bud that was a twin of yours. In the right case with a light set of legs, it was about 44 lbs. I gigged it a lot and never had any trouble with it.... and I never even broke one of the lever mounts.
Sold it.... 6 months later I replaced it with a '75 Sho~Bud S-10.... black, of course. |
SD10. I think I've got a long way to go before anyone's willing to fly me somewhere to play a steel guitar. I barely know how to play the thing here at home. It's got a good flight case though, however it's not particularly light.
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In that case, yeah, the S-10 would be the first to go: but if I needed money, I'd lay out a matrix of last use on the X axis and most valuable on the Y, and start selling at the corner.
EDIT: Chris Ivey points out I overjargon: I mean lay out a graph, with the vertical element being "how much can I get for it" and the horizontal element being "when did I last use this?"
If you need money or space, start by selling stuff at the most money/least played corner of the graph. |
I think the 3rd pedal steel would be just that. All the guitars an amps get used pretty regularly. Thank god. Two steels would as well (one for regular practice, one for gigs), but I'm not sure I could make the same argument for a 3rd. |
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mike nolan
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Forest Hills, NY USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2013 4:00 pm
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| SD10. I think I've got a long way to go before anyone's willing to fly me somewhere to play a steel guitar. I barely know how to play the thing here at home. It's got a good flight case though, however it's not particularly light. |
Early on in my PSG playing days, someone might have been tempted to fly me somewhere else to play steel.  |
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David Scheidler
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 25 Nov 2013 10:13 pm
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Atom - I can understand how you must feel. If you're still considering selling your Pro I, I am definitely interested.
"I'm not sure I can really bear to part with my first PSG, but I've been thinking of selling it since I've got a ton of friends who've been asking me if I would, and I have more steels than I need right now, and a little less money than I'd like at the same time." |
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Chris Brooks
From:
Providence, Rhode Island
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Posted 26 Nov 2013 5:52 am
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Atom--
Looking at your music room, I see lots of space--but off the ground.
Get a few more shelves. Get guitars and stuff off the floor and onto shelves.
Now there is plenty of room to keep that nice Sho-Bud!
Chris |
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Atom Schmitt
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 26 Nov 2013 7:27 am
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| Chris Brooks wrote: |
Atom--
Looking at your music room, I see lots of space--but off the ground.
Get a few more shelves. Get guitars and stuff off the floor and onto shelves.
Now there is plenty of room to keep that nice Sho-Bud!
Chris |
Whoa, are you really a steel player named Chris Brooks? That's crazy -- this is the main band I play with: https://www.facebook.com/ChrisBrooksBand
I actually did a little rearranging after the picture. More space or no, I still don't really think I need any more equipment. Not till I learn how to play it, anyway! |
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