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Topic: ORIGINAL sho bud 6140 6/0 copedent? |
Keith Bolog
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Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 25 Nov 2013 2:17 pm |
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Help me find the thread - I have been looking. A friend took his apart in 1975 and is puttnig it back together (its a thing of beauty now)
This guitar has no KLs but has 6 pedals. Indications are (original owners and the catalog that) that is was E9 chormatic tuning. So what do pedals D,E, and F do? Or was this the old Fender tuning? tnx
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John Roche
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Posted 25 Nov 2013 2:33 pm
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| The 6140 was a C6th setup. The 6139 was the E9th. I have the 6140 but converted to E9th. So the extra pedals would be as C6th setup |
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John Roche
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England
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Posted 25 Nov 2013 2:34 pm
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| The 6140 was a C6th setup. The 6139 was the E9th. I have the 6140 but converted to E9th. So the extra pedals would be as C6th setup |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 25 Nov 2013 2:35 pm
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I think I'd worry less about what it originally had than "what does it need to play what I want?"
Unless it's a Fingertip or Permanent, I don't think the value increases with original setup, but it gets more valuable the more useful they are.
If it were in my hands, I'd send a bunch of money to James Morehead and buy some knee lever kits.
I'd put Es to F on P1, A, B and C on 2-4, and lower the Es on P6. Not sure what I'd do with 5.
Is it Rack and Barrel, or other system?
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Bruce Derr
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Lee, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 25 Nov 2013 6:00 pm
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I agree. The original setup from 40 years ago wouldn't necessarily be the best.
FWIW the 6140 I bought new in 1973 (my first steel) was set up for E9. It was 6+2. I have the old paperwork. It doesn't list the p4-6 setup but I wrote them down at the time:
p4 lowered 2, Eb to D
p5 raised F#s 1 & 7 to G
p6 lowered Bs 5 & 10 to Bb
RKL Es to Eb
LKL raised 8 E to F and lowered 2 Eb to D
My memory of that steel is murky, but if my notes are correct that was the setup. I knew NOTHING about steel when I got it. Despite that, I began changing pulls around almost as soon as I got it and messed it up pretty good! I eventually got it straightened out enough to play (I am using the term loosely) but I sold it when I bought another steel. |
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Dana Blodgett
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California, USA
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Posted 26 Nov 2013 11:32 am 6140
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That's my understanding also that the 6140 was set up for the c6th. My Sho-Bud originally had 6 floor pedals and no knee levers and was converted to a 3+2 setup and then later added two knee levers
 by Jim Palenscar.Although I don't rule out the possibility that there were some 6+0's that were set up as E9th.
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Dana Blodgett
From Los Osos,Ca.
'74 ShoBud 6140 3+4, Martins HD28,D-12-28, D-15,'65 Gibson LG-1, '77 Gibson Les Paul special dbl cut p-90's, Les Paul Special p-100's,Les paul Special Hybrid(maple top) hbkr's,'68 Fender Strat reissue, Fender Squire Jazz bass,Epi mandolin,Epi Wilshire '66 reissue, Kamaka Concert uke, 70's Kamaka Soprano Uke, Fender Super amp, Ampeg ba112 bass amp,60's harmony banjo,'00 Gibson SG Supreme |
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