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Joseph Barcus
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Volga West Virginia
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Posted 25 Oct 2013 9:51 am |
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this is a 1968 standel I picked up and all I can say is it makes my nashville 400 sound like a piece of crap, no effects needed reverb is plenty and crystal clear. just the sound ive been looking for. taking it out as a whole next week then going to take a saw to it make two pieces head/ speaker its just to bulky now, I have it apart right now was cleaning pots
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 25 Oct 2013 11:02 am
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Joe, I think that at least some of that sound you're liking is because of that over-sized cabinet, and I think that if you stick it in something more the size of a NV400, you may not be as enthused about the sound as you are now.  |
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Joseph Barcus
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Volga West Virginia
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Mike Cass
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Posted 25 Oct 2013 1:00 pm
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That looks like an Imperial model, Standel's top of the line back then. IMHO, your first statement about the sound is correct. A large number of the records you and I love that were cut in the 50's and 60's were cut with Standel amps of one type or another. A Standel gives you exactly what you put into it and thats why they're not for everybody. You could put some other amp in there, that's true, but it wouldnt sound like a Standel because it wouldn't be a Standel. However you could reverse the process(put the S in a PV cab) and it would still sound much like it does now. Lets try to remember; the Peavey was originally designed by Hartley Peavey(who was a long-time Standel dealer) to have the same tonal characteristics as a Standel, but with more volume. Even the first 400's look like a Standel.
Clean 'er up and enjoy. That's one great amp, again just MHO.
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Tommy Alexander
From:
Friendswood, Texas 77546
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Posted 26 Oct 2013 3:48 am Standel Amp
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I hope that I get can this right, but I'll try.
A few short years back I was talking with Ron Elliott and as the story goes, Buddy Emmons was at home and had been fooling around with his guitar and amd his amps and pulled out his Standel amp from the closet and hooked up the amp and his guitar and began to play on.
Buddy called Ron and asked him to come over, he wanted Ron to take a listen.
Ron said that he went by Buddy's and Buddy began to play some tunes and Ron said that he couldn't believe the sound and tone that Buddy had.
Buddy said that he had not played on the old Standel for some years. Buddy commented that he always had the best tone from the Standel and he could not believe that had tucked the Standel away.
If Ron reads this, I hope that I said it right; or close anyway.
I believe that some of the old is better than the junk they are building these days.
My personal opinion only....
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Gene Jones
From:
Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
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Posted 26 Oct 2013 8:21 am
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In the past I have owned and played Standel amps, both tube and transistor models, and both had great tone and reached the back of the room without distortion.
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David Zornes
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 29 Oct 2013 9:38 am Standel amp
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| I had a copy of the Standel Studio model that Lloyd used back in the early 70's. It had a 15 inch Altec Lansing in it; "tone to the bone", but when I started working the road, it just couldn't hold up to the volume stress. However, I sure wished I had that amp back today. |
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 29 Oct 2013 10:10 am
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| they really have the sound! Unfortunately, since they used to dip the chassis in resin for some reason, they usually are a major pain to fix if they go down. |
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Mike Cass
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Posted 30 Oct 2013 5:17 pm
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the reason for the resin-dip was told to me by none other than Bob Crooks himself...
"....I was at a Hank Thompson concert in So. Cal. in the early 50's and was admiring all of the brand new Standel amps lined up onstage. It made me proud to have Hank and all of his band onboard as endorsers of my new line of amplifiers. Suddenly, something caught my eye over behind the last amp to the left onstage...it looked like a flash of light or a spark, which concerned me, so I discreetly made my way over to that side of the stage and looked behind that amp. There, lying on his back, flicking his cigarette lighter in order to see up inside of the amp chassis was....Leo Fender! After that, I dipped all of my component modules in an epoxy-resin solution to hide the circuit path and values of my invention...."
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 31 Oct 2013 9:20 am
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the first amp i landed on that i 'really' liked after trying a super reverb for years and a sho-bud xmas tree was a standel custom 24. it was great. finally the pv ltd400 came along and i was done with the amp search.
it was just the rectangular modules in the standel that were encased in resin, not the whole chassis. |
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Dustin Rhodes
From:
Owasso OK
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Posted 31 Oct 2013 1:15 pm
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| Mike Cass wrote: |
the reason for the resin-dip was told to me by none other than Bob Crooks himself...
"....I was at a Hank Thompson concert in So. Cal. in the early 50's and was admiring all of the brand new Standel amps lined up onstage. It made me proud to have Hank and all of his band onboard as endorsers of my new line of amplifiers. Suddenly, something caught my eye over behind the last amp to the left onstage...it looked like a flash of light or a spark, which concerned me, so I discreetly made my way over to that side of the stage and looked behind that amp. There, lying on his back, flicking his cigarette lighter in order to see up inside of the amp chassis was....Leo Fender! After that, I dipped all of my component modules in an epoxy-resin solution to hide the circuit path and values of my invention...."
There you have it, straight from the horses mouth |
Same reason that pedal builders do it. Well except the part about Crook trying to hide something unique and pedal builders hiding that they're making a copy thats marketed as unique. |
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Roual Ranes
From:
Atlanta, Texas, USA
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Posted 31 Oct 2013 5:09 pm
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| I only played steel through one Standel. My friend had a Standel Imperial 15. It was a piggy back with a 15" Lansing in the speaker box. I didn't like it......no bottom end......could have been just that amp. He still has it but plays guitar through and Evans 80watt with a 15 light weight in in. |
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Joseph Barcus
From:
Volga West Virginia
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Mike Cass
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Posted 31 Oct 2013 9:35 pm
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Roual,
if your friend is interested in selling the Imperial Im interested in buying it.
thx.
Mike Cass
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Roual Ranes
From:
Atlanta, Texas, USA
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Posted 1 Nov 2013 2:42 am
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Mike,
I will call him today after 9:00.
For your info: Jim Evans knows that amp well. |
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J J Harmon
From:
Reynolds, GA 31076
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Posted 1 Nov 2013 6:43 am Xv
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| I have one the reverb don't work. My Dad bought it for a Bass amp but it was made for guitar. I asked Paul Yandell about it and he said it wasn't worth $50 but I think the speakers are worth $150 each. Great sounding but too much to lug around. |
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Joseph Barcus
From:
Volga West Virginia
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J J Harmon
From:
Reynolds, GA 31076
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Posted 2 Nov 2013 2:36 pm
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| 16 ohm speakers in parallel. |
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Joseph Barcus
From:
Volga West Virginia
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Posted 2 Nov 2013 2:42 pm
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ok thanks mine is a single 15 the speaker thats in it is not the factory speaker its the imperial model It would be nice to find out if this is only 8 ohm or was the original a 4 ohm lots of power loss if the 8 ohm in it needs to be a 4 is why I am asking this
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Tim Whitlock
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 4 Nov 2013 2:31 pm
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I bought a Standel Artist 2x12. Loved the sound but hated the huge heavy particle board cabinet so I built separate head and speaker cabinets.
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