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Evans SE200 Thread Revised

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Just a few short years ago, I bought an Evans SE200 amp, new. I had several intermittent cut-outs over the years, and Scot was good about trying to fix the problem.
Then it cut out and wouldn't work. Period.
I took it to a local amp shop, and although it seemed to be a relatively mundane effects loop issue, it turned out to be some sort of module that failed. The tech and Scot spent a good amount of time on the phone trying to nail down the part needed. Scot said he didn't make that part, it came from Germany, and would cost $250. The tech tried a different avenue (to reduce cost), and when he tried the part, it was defective. The shop owner said they could do no more, refunded my $135, and I ended up where I started. Needless to say, I was upset with only 3-4 yrs. of use. I recently sold it to a dealer who said that he'd get it running and sell it.
I've seen comments over the years that disparaged Evans amps.
I assume some folks have had an Evans for many years without incident, and encourage you to comment.
This thread has been updated. I originally started it due to the way the malfunction came down (was it really the module, the loop jacks or something else?). Had the tech told me he simply couldn't fix my Evans, or gone ahead and ordered the module from Scot (which Scot said he'd take back if it weren't the problem) I might have called Scot about this and been better served. As it is, Scot called me, and filled me in on many details with which I was unfamiliar. I told him I was frustrated with a recurring problem that resisted diagnosis, though that doesn't necessarily imply the same cause (witness cars....). Scot then offered to work with me on a resolution, should I choose to reclaim the amp. As I tried to emphasize, Scot has been - and continues to be - a straight-shooter in his business. I don't know others' experiences with him or Evans amps, but he is still committed to service after the sale.
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Less then a couple of months on mine,completely went
dead only piolet light working,sent it back to factory got it back guess what same problem again,basicly, a vary unreliable,troublesome unit
I parted out for parts,lost $1200 on that deal,and lots of warrenty issues the evans company would not back up,lies and broken promices,this se200 is a joke of an amplifier,as far as reliability goes.
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I bought a new SE-200, a while back and it had a low level hum in it when I got it. I sent it back and it was repaired (the output bias was incorrectly adjusted when it was built). The factory also replaced the "defective" reverb board. Those two initial (new) problems don't say much for factory quality control. It never had the power, as it was supplied with an 8 ohm Eminence Delta Lite speaker. The 200 watts was rated with a 4 ohm load, with the 8 ohm load the maximum power was 127 watts. The 127 watts should have been enough but with all the gain controls set to maximum I couldn't get enough volume for a "not loud" band and a relatively small venue.

I finally gave up and bought a Nashville 1000 amp and sold the SE-200 to a guy that was learning and that would never take the amp out of his home.
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I'd seen something about that 4 ohm vs. 8 ohm here, Jack. And a guy wrote me that he was considering buying an Evans, and wanted the 4 ohm, but couldn't get it that way. I had even thought of swapping out the speaker, as someone else here had done, but never got around to it. Scot tells me he wants customers to hear the amp the way it's designed to be, then they can always try anything else out there. I can understand that; if someone just says "tell me anything you want", I simply may not know what's best and would hope a builder does.
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I'm guessing that the stock 8 ohm speaker was because Evans sold an 8 ohm (companion)extension speaker and when both were used it would be 4 ohms. Also, the Eminence Delta Lite that they used was only available in 8 ohms.

But not offering a 4 ohm model for those that have no intention of using a second speaker is also a mistake.

The recently introduced Eminence EPS-15C, which is 4 ohms would be a good replacement for the 8 ohm Delta Lite (both neodymium magnet speakers).

Being an electronics geek and former amp tech probably has a bearing on my assessment of the amp.
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Jack--what do you figure it adds to the cost of building an amp to wire the transformer for selectable impedance, either as a switch or as a dedicated jack? I've never understood why so many amps do not have this feature (or is there a downside to doing this?)
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I purchased an AH-200 head a few months ago. I play it at home though a JBL K-130 8 ohm speaker. I think it really sounds amazing. I haven't had it very long, but I think it sounds fantastic. It really sounds better to me than the 2 Peavey's I've experienced (Session 500 and Nashville 1000 with chips from Ken Fox).

I like the sound so much, I hope it doesn't go malfunctioning on me. The only "con" I'd mention is that I agree it doesn't seem to get too loud.

But, I also use my Peavey Nashville 1000 out and about on gigs because I need that kind of power to play with the band I'm in. They're fairly loud, so I know the AH-200 just wouldn't cut it. I wish I could have the AH-200 sounds with the Peavey power. But, I'm not in a fiscal position to try and buy one of Evan's 500 watt amps they currently offer (even though I'd have to get a different speaker than stock to acheive that wattage).

Long story short, I love the sound of my AH-200 even though it's a bit quiet. I really hope its reliability doesn't go down the drain. It sure is fantastic to practice and record with.
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Brandon, have you thought of (assuming the Evans has a line out) using both amps, and running the line out into the power amp in of the Peavey?
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Glad to hear you like your Evans, Brandon. The lack of "full" power can indeed be an issue, but after decades of a Peavey Nashville 400, my Evans certainly sounded sweeter, if not as loud. Scot worked with me on getting the tone set to one I liked, and seemed to imply my amp wasn't really meant to compete with the NV400 - he was right in saying that at high volume an amp will lose it's tonal quality, something that's paramount in an Evans. A guitarist buddy of mine had one years ago, and was happy to play through mine for a bit.
Brandon, if you ever find your Evans has an issue, please give Scot a call. He's never been less than cordial with me, and even if we disagree on something, he's never been rude or nasty.
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Thanks, Daniel. Yeah, it's interesting to hear that it wasn't designed to "keep up" with a NV 400. I mean, some of us need it to sound good AND be loud, right?

Lane - That's a great thought. I'll have to experiment with that. I'd be running the AH-200 sans speaker load, but I doubt that'd hurt it since it's solid state.

I will say that the one other time I futzed around with using a different preamp (Boss) mated to the NV 1000 power amp in I had trouble getting the same overall output levels with good tone vs. using the entire NV 1000 on its own. The NV 1000 on it's own always seemed louder. When I boosted the output of the preamp to approximate the volume of the NV 1000 on it's own, the gains in tone from using the other preamp were lost. Maybe I just wasn't doing a good job matching the gain structures to what the NV 1000's power amp would prefer "seeing".

The real truth of the matter (to me) is that in a live setting, I'd strongly doubt anyone would detect the difference in tone between an Evans vs. Peavey anyhow. The NV 1000 and an sometimes an RV-3 (if I'm feeling saucy!) is all I truly need live.
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The SE-200 (at least the 2003 model I had and the schematics for it) is a "transformerless" power amp design. It would have to be redesigned to add a multi-tap impedance output transformer.

Most of the solid state amps are the same way.
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Sorry to hear of your issues with Evans amps. I have had my se200 for 6 years now. Other than one issue some years back, it has worked great. Scot has provided, in my opinion, superior customer service. I am running one of the new eminence speakers currently. It has plenty of power and can get way louder than I will ever need it to.
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Brandon... If the Evans has a pre-amp out jack, why not just run that to the power amp in of the Peavey, and leave the speaker hooked up in the Evans? That way you would get the sound of the Evans, additional power and 2 speakers for better coverage (move more air). That is how I would do it. Of course, this is all dependent on the Evans having a pre-amp out, and that using it doesn't disable the power amp in the Evans. I have never personally seen or used an amp where the pre-amp out disabled the connection between the pre-amp and power-amp sections.
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Just to be clear about my thread: please see the first post and the quote added. My intent was not to disparage Scot, and as I've said, my Evans was a good sounding amp, and should be again when repaired. (Peaveys are good, reliable amps in my experience, but even a bandmate told me the Evans sounded really nice for a solid state amp).
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I'll add that the person that bought mine never had an electronic problem with it. The speaker did fail about 3 years after I sold it to him, and Evans replaced it under warranty.

Thinking back, the speaker may have had a problem from the start and the reason for my issue with low power output.
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Kind of off topic, but....I can have the fullest sound out of my Evans, until I plug in my boss dd3 or dd7. Then it gets very thin. No adjustment on the amp will change it. It's all also vey noticable. Would it make any difference if I used the effects loop in the back of the amp? If so, how would I hook it up. I have never used it.
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Baxter, have your tried those pedals with other amps? If so, same issue? I use a lot of effects, and everything's not always the same with every amp.
Yes, try the effects loop. I do that with all but dirt and a couple other pedals.

Steel > volume pedal > front of amp as usual. Then, run one cable from the Send jack to the pedal's input. Run another cable from the pedal's output to the Return jack (those should be standard 1/4" guitar cables). That should work, and hopefully better than those pedals in front of the amp.
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Thanks! That fixed it. The only reason I ran it in front of the amp is, sometimes I use and sometimes I don't.
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Great thought, Richard! I'll have a "steel stack". I've never been wild enough to carry more than one 15" speaker to a gig before! Haha! :eek:
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I purchased a new Evans FET 500 in 1983 and a SE200 in 1999. I am still using both units and have never had a problem with either with exception of cleaning the dust off the inside occasionally. Great amps.
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I have an Evans AE-100 I bought from John Hughy. After experiencing intermittent distortion, I found coupling cap on reverb board was broken at the board. Was able to solder a new lead on cap and re-connect it to board. Amp is now rock solid. I use it with 12 in. Altec Lansing ext. speaker. I'm happy with sound of this amp. No comparison with Peavy, not to say Peavey is bad, just Evans sounds much better to me. Scott has never failed to be sensitive to my questions about this amp. Just my 2 cents.
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I'm glad to see more positive posts about Evans amps, and particularly about Scot's customer service. I don't think Evans would have lasted this long if their products were shoddy and they didn't try to address problems.
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Scott and I are very good friends. Just never met a nicer guy. He has done a superior job with his new amps and is always concerned about customer service! He is striving to make Evans better than ever.
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I owned a SE200 a few years ago. It served me well. Great tone. Someone offered me a good price for it and I sold it. Bad mistake ! If times were not as they are with my health I would buy another.
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I have a 2004 SE-200 which had to have the reverb board replaced in 2007. I replaced the Delta lite speaker with a 1501-4 BW with a neo magnet. Tone is great and the amp weighs 40 lbs. As far as power is concerned, it will bring down small aircraft from 500 feet. Great Amp, just built a smaller cabinet for it which took off about 3 more lbs.
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