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Paul Wade


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Post  Posted 20 Jul 2013 5:17 am    
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trying to set up C6TH Neck on a older m.s.a d-10 classic
have stndard C6th pedals and RKR Lower 3rd string a half tone and RKL raise 4th string a half tone. what would you
add to it.... i am stumped ??

p.w

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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 20 Jul 2013 5:33 am    
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Put P5 on a knee. Have P5 drop 4 to G# and 8 to G.
Raise 4 and 8 to Bb and raise at least 3 (I also raise 7) to C#
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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 20 Jul 2013 7:45 am    
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Paul, I recently went through this process here's what I came up with after studying numerous copedants on line and in the Winnie Winston book:




I moved pedal 6 to RKL to get pedals 5 and 7 (now 6 and 7) next to each other. This way, those three changes (traditional pedals 5-7) can be easily combined one with another or all together without using two feet. I'm starting C6 late in life and just don't want to get into the two-feet-dance. (I know, I know--I'm a lazy immoral putz. So be it.) I moved the seventh/third string half-step raise to pedal 5, since it readily combines with the traditional pedal 5(now my pedal 6) to give the major chord three frets above open position (and restores the high G tuning, not that I ever had it to missit). The fourth pedal is a variation I have seen from others on the "reverse pedal 6"; i.e., raising string six and lowering string two, here leaving string two alone and adding the whole tone raise on string seven for a broad D minor 9th span. This is sort of a wild card to me; I could change it to something else entirely.

I still need to add the half-stop feel on LKL (I ran out of time before I went on vacation). Several people have sung the praises of this change, which combines the traditional pedal 4 with a half step raise on strings four and eight. For that matter, I haven't had a chance to see how all of this works ergonomically. I already moved the "pedal 6" change from LKR where it didn't work well at all, so there may be some other reconfiguring and re-rodding to do as well. (I have 5-40 die and I'm not afraid to use it [although I should be!])

Dan
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Earnest Bovine


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Los Angeles CA USA
Post  Posted 20 Jul 2013 8:17 am    
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Very interesting, Dan. I also like the idea of moving the traditional P6 to a knee lever. I wanted to have the traditional P5 and P8 together. I don't even use the traditional P7, altho I can get that effect using my RKR and P5.


Here is my C6 now, changed a tiny bit from the old version on b0b's tunings page.
Tab:

  LKL  LKV  LKR  4   5   6   7    8    9   10    RKL   RKR

G                           -F#
E  -Eb     +F                         ++F#
D                    +Eb          -C#
C      -B           ++D
A               +Bb                             -Ab   +Bb,++B
G                       --F -F#
E  +F      -Eb                        ++F#
D                                 -C#
C      -B
A               +Bb                             
F                           +F#   -E      ++G     
C                          ++D  ---A
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Calvin Walley


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colorado city colorado, USA
Post  Posted 20 Jul 2013 1:42 pm    
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I always wished the C pedal had been added as a knee lever on the right
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Edward Meisse

 

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Santa Rosa, California, USA
Post  Posted 22 Jul 2013 5:01 pm    
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I find the Buddy Emmons C6 set up to be pretty comprehensive. Some people add a vertical knee lever on the left for a G to F lower. I'm not sure that's really necessary.
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