Hughey's C6 KL: 10 (+2) & 5 (-2)
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- Clete Ritta
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Hughey's C6 KL: 10 (+2) & 5 (-2)
My Carter D10 C6 neck CKR raises 10 a whole tone (+2) & lowers (edited:) 5 a whole tone (-2). Its kind of like a minor version of P5. It came setup that way, but I haven't seen it on any other copedent charts edited: (except John Hugheys). Im still a newb on C6, and just curious if anyone else has this change or has any info as to its use. I've been thinking of someday changing it to a reverse P6, but there is still plenty to learn on the standard pedals and levers.
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- Richard Sinkler
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I've just put a similar change on my new Williams and I love it! The difference is that I lower the 5th string a whole tone and raise the tenth a whole. Big, contrary motion D minor7th and it can be set up so you can lower the 5th string a half step before the tenth string kicks in, so you get a C flat 5 on a feel half pedal.
I've been thinking about the potential of raising and lowering the fourth string C6th. Like the 6th string E9th, it's the thickest plain string so will move a tone down and a tone and a half up easily....Only problem is that only gives you duplication of adjacent strings....
but wait - lower 4 a whole tone and its like taking your A pedal off on E 9th i- Amin to C in open position. Do the same while playing an F chord in open position and its like using the A Pedal with the B pedal on E 9th on the 7th fret....
I've been thinking about the potential of raising and lowering the fourth string C6th. Like the 6th string E9th, it's the thickest plain string so will move a tone down and a tone and a half up easily....Only problem is that only gives you duplication of adjacent strings....
but wait - lower 4 a whole tone and its like taking your A pedal off on E 9th i- Amin to C in open position. Do the same while playing an F chord in open position and its like using the A Pedal with the B pedal on E 9th on the 7th fret....
- Clete Ritta
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My error in the post and title now corrected appropriately. My apologies . Please disregard Mr. Sinklers comment above, as he was referring to the original post of string 4 lower, which is unusual. Just as Lucky has, its string 5, not 4. It sure does yield a big beautiful minor 7th across the neck. I also get a half stop on string 5. I see now that this is exactly what John Hughey had on his LKL. Though he also had the reverse P6 on LKR, I think I'll leave this as is.
- Richard Sinkler
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The dropping of string 5 to F also gives you an F note that is missing from the middle of the set of strings. I lower mine on a pedal to the right of the regular pedal 6. If used together, the lowering of string 5 gets rid if the ninth tone and gives a root tone in the middle where there was none before. I also raise string 1 to D# on that pedal to give me a 7th tone up high. Both pedals together give an F7 from string 1 all the way to string 10. I use it often.
[tab]
LKL LKV LKR 6 7 8 9 RKL RKR
D_______________________D#
E____________________F
C______D_______________________B_____D
A______Bb___Bb_______________________B
G________________F#_____F
E____________________D#____D
C_C#_______________________B
A__________________________G
F_E______________F#
C_A______________D
[/tab]
My first 5 pedals are used on E9th, but I may put the "reverse" pedal 6 back on pedal 5 or on LKV
[tab]
LKL LKV LKR 6 7 8 9 RKL RKR
D_______________________D#
E____________________F
C______D_______________________B_____D
A______Bb___Bb_______________________B
G________________F#_____F
E____________________D#____D
C_C#_______________________B
A__________________________G
F_E______________F#
C_A______________D
[/tab]
My first 5 pedals are used on E9th, but I may put the "reverse" pedal 6 back on pedal 5 or on LKV
Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, NV400, NV112 . Playing for 53 years and still counting.
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