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Stephen Williams
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Basic questions from newbie

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1. Can one raise a note 3 semi-tones ever? I seem to only get 2.

2. Where the rod from the changer meets the cross- shaft (which then hooks up to the floor pedal rod), there are nuts each side of the shaft. Is one for raises and the other for lowers? Sorry if I got the nomenclature all wrong. I have a Regson but nobody has ever heard of it.
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Bill Moore
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You might go to this web page: http://steelguitar.com/
and do some reading. There is lots of general info, and explanations of how these things work. Good luck.
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Post by Chuck Thompson »

Stephen I don't know anything about the brand of your guitar. If it is tuned to somewhat standard E9th you can get 3 semitone interval on string 4 if you lower it to D# on a lever and raise to F# on a pedal or other lever. Also if you have half step lower on strings 5 and 10 and whole step raise on a pedal you have another 3 semitone interval. Same with string 6 and or 2 if you have a whole step lower and a half step raise.
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Post by Lane Gray »

It sounds like you have a pull-release guitar. Posting pics of the underside might help.
There are people who raise a minor third, but it's not very common. Paul F has a major third drop. Most of us only use 1 or 2 semitone moves.
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Stick with the standard changes...unless you're a very advanced player. Yes, all of us have those "fun moves" we'd like to be able to do, but learn what is there first! 8)
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Post by Frank Montmarquet »

On a U12 a 3 semitone raise on the 9th from B to D is common.
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I have seen a B to D raise on string 5. If I had an extra pedal or lever, I would try that. I have a solo I do where I have to play strings 3 & 5 (fret 8 - key of F but playing against the 5 chord at that point) no pedals, and do a slide up 5 frets and for the first 3, I have to press the A pedal and slant the bar to get a 7th on string 5 and then straighten it out by the time I get to the 13th fret. If I could raise string 5 3 semi-tones, I wouldn't have to do that gosh-awful slant. If I am not 100% that night, it doesn't come off well.
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Post by Jerry Overstreet »

I don't know anything about that Regson guitar, but I believe Paul Franklin raised string 6 one and a half tones from g# to b on his Franklin at one time. I don't know if he still does.
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Post by Stephen Williams »

Thanks for all replies. I really appreciate it.
I'll post pic when i get a chance. It seems that one would want the 3 semitones in order to play blues or rock.
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Post by Lane Gray »

The last few years I've played more blues than country. Never missed not having one. Although I don't find a lot of use for levers F and X.
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