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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 24 Mar 2013 1:26 am    
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I like the color. (If I ever buy another steel it will be a Blue Darlin'.) I'll get one if they make them in my preferred size.
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Tony Glassman


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The Great Northwest
Post  Posted 24 Mar 2013 7:32 am    
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Are you referring to the Paloma bars made by Jay Seibert?

http://stoneslides.com/
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 24 Mar 2013 8:02 am    
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Thanks Tony. That's the one.
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Stephen Gambrell

 

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Post  Posted 24 Mar 2013 8:44 pm    
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Mike, I bought one of his reso bars. I've been playing dobro for about 30 years (or so), and I've always used a Stevens bar. So I thought I'd try one of these. NO sustain, no top end--It did my Guernsey no favor at all. I suppose they'd be all right as an effect, but I couldn't make one entire song using it. I would advise anybody to try one first, if that were possible. I'll send you mine, if you'd like. It's not round, like my BJS bar, but you could get a pretty good idea of how it'd affect your steel tone.
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Georg Sørtun


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Mandal, Agder, Norway
Post  Posted 24 Mar 2013 10:31 pm    
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From tests done by me in March 2012 - results mailed to producer.
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As for sustain...
As 100% sustain-time reference I use my Zirconium and BulletBars bars as they are pretty similar in sustaining 10th string (E9), and counted approx sustain-time for all bars.
• The "blue" 7/8" ceramic bar sustained 65% at fret 3 and 40% at fret 17.
• The "blue" 1" ceramic bar sustained 75% at fret 3 and 50% at fret 17.

On string 1 to 5 (plain strings on [my] E9) there isn't much difference in sustain-time up the neck. I even think (more like a feeling so far) that I can sustain longer/easier on string 3 up the neck with the "blue" ceramic bars than with the heavier Zirconium bar and even slightly heavier BulletBar, and the plain strings sounds brighter/fresher with
the light ceramic bars than with the others. I like both ceramic bars on the plain strings.

On the wound string 6 to 10 sustain-time drops considerably...


Tests done on Dekley and GFI Ultra.
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Mike Perlowin


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Los Angeles CA
Post  Posted 25 Mar 2013 1:35 am    
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Too bad. I love the color, but it they don't work as well as the others, I'm not gonna want to use it.

I think I'll stick to my BJS and zirc bars and pass on this one.
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Lee Baucum


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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
Post  Posted 25 Mar 2013 9:03 am    
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Mike - Didn't I send you a couple of those bars?

One blue and one white.

Lee
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Mike Perlowin


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Los Angeles CA
Post  Posted 25 Mar 2013 9:43 am    
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Hi Lee. I have a different white bar, besides the zirc, that might have come from you. I don't remember. (I'm getting old. Crying or Very sad) I don't have a blue one.

But as I said earlier, if they don't work as well as the BJS and zirc bars, I'm not going to want to use them. Besides, my wife says the cobalt blue won't look good with my purple Millennium.


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Georg Sørtun


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Post  Posted 25 Mar 2013 1:28 pm    
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The producer of those bars had plans and were in the process of addressing the "less sustain" issue by (among other things) producing a heavier bar with same measurements. That's why we communicated.

I found his design ideas good, but haven't the foggiest (apart from what he explained to me over a beer or two at the TSGA 2012 event) how he would go about producing those heavier and better sustaining bars.

If I remember correctly - read it somewhere on this forum - he may have been out of circulation for a while (personal reasons - health issues ?), which would explain why I and others haven't heard anything about an improved bar yet.

Given time who knows what he may come up with. I sure like the bars I bought from him for what they do, it just doesn't cover all I want in a bar for "general" steel playing yet.
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