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Roger Rettig
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Posted 7 Feb 2013 6:03 pm |
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I've just bought a Goodrich volume pedal from a Forumite and it arrived today. Just to check it was working after its journey I plugged it in and....
Nothing!!!
I contacted the seller expressing my concern and he responded immediately, asking if I'd put a battery in it.
"Battery?? There's no battery in a standard Goodrich!" I spluttered. He immediately said that he'd return my money if I wasn't happy but, just to be sure, I took the plate off the bottom.
I found the battery cradle! 
Inserting a new 9v did the trick and it's just fine. NONE of my other three Goodrich pedals take a battery so I'm pretty confused. This one is a low-profile - is that the difference? I thought the only change was in the height of the pedal.
Is the power being drawn from the battery only when the cords are inserted? How long a life can I expect from a 9v?
Thanks, all....
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 7 Feb 2013 6:37 pm
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That is not a "standard" Goodrich pedal. They had some that had built in match boxes and they took batteries. I am betting that you will also find a small circuit board in there.
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David Higginbotham
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Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2013 7:40 pm
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You have an L10K if its low profile and or an H10K if it's standard height. They do indeed need a 9 volt battery to operate the circuit board inside which buffers and increases your signal such as a Goodrich matchbox. It's basically a matchbox built into the pedal and it was my choice of volume pedals for many years. Much better than the passive 120 pedals IMHO!
The battery life depends on usage and you do need to unplug the cables when not in use as that will drain the battery. I usually got about 6 months per battery on average. Did I mention they are great pedals??? 
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 8 Feb 2013 3:25 am
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Thanks, Richard and David - I'm going to have to get in the habit of unplugging it! I expect it'll remain a 'spare' for that reason.
It does ound good, though.
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Bill Myers
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Camp Hill, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2013 5:17 am
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Roger...I have always used an L10k and infact...just bought another one from Dave. They are great pedals and I really like the sound. I have a passive MSA pedal and I greatly prefer the L10K.
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 8 Feb 2013 5:37 am
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Yes, Bill - I must say I like its warmth. I've already, though, forgotten to unplug it!!! Those 9 volts aren't cheap any more so I must watch that.
Another question:
I now have four Goodrich pedals. One is quite new (four years?) yet it sounds to me like the pot's going. Very noisy and particularly when I push the pedal up and down.
Is this a repair that a regular guitar store guy should be able to do or should it go to a steel guy? There aren't any around here...
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Bill Myers
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Camp Hill, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2013 6:01 am
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The best thing I can tell you about a Goodrich pot pedal whether it is a buffer version (like the L10K) or a passive model is learn to change the strings and pots yourself. It is not difficult and if you have even basic soldering skills you can change them out.
There are instruciton on how to do this out on the forum (with pictures). There was an issue with pots several years ago as there wasn't a good source for a replacement for the Allen Bradley pots. Then a source was found from a company call Precision Electronic Components (PEC) up in Canada for a 500k Log taper pot (sometimes called audio taper). These were better but alot of people were having short life spans with them. From what I have read...Goodrich had a supply of extended life pots made by PEC that are supposed to be 1 million cycle lifespan. These are supposed to be pretty good. I think Bradshaw have a pot being made by/for Dunlop that is supposed to be pretty good too. If you go to a local shop...unless it is a steel guitar shop...they most likely have never seen a Goodrich Pedal, much less changed a pot in one. If you learn to change it out yourself, you will be way ahead of the game. If you are a steel player and you use pot pedals at some point you are going to have to change out a pot or two...
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Rick Barnhart
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Arizona, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2013 6:07 am
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+1 on the Tom Bradshaw Dunlop pots. They come with simple instructions and you'll probably only have to do it once.
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 8 Feb 2013 6:09 am
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I know you're right, Bill, and I'm going to make an effort. In the past I've always delegated (I sent a pedal all the way from my gig in Utah to Herby Wallace in TN for a new pot!)
Greg Cutshaw has a good reference site for this and I actually re-routed a string on one of my pedals just the other day. I'm really not very adept at any kind of handy-man stuff (ask 'er indoors'!!!) and in the past I've been resigned to paying to have things done. Naples, GFL, though, is a far-flung outpost when it comes to steel guitar!
Thanks for your help. Now to look for a soldering iron!
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Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, B-bender Teles, Martins, and a Gibson Super 400!
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 8 Feb 2013 6:19 am
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I've now rummaged through a couple of 'junk' drawers and I found this! I must have, at some point, steeled myself to the task of switching a pot for myself then I obviously got cold feet - it's clearly new and unused.
Can you tell me if this one is any good? It seems to say 'Extra Life' on it. Sorry it's a blurry picture.
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Bill Myers
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Camp Hill, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2013 6:22 am
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Two quick pieces of advice. 1. Take a cell phone or a digital camera and take a picture of the way the string is wrapped around the pot on your pedal. It helps to be able to see the exact way it was on your pedal before you take it apart. 2. Buy a decent solder iron. You can get by with a 40 watt iron from Radio Shack but Parts Express sells a little soldering station for $17 with a crude but usable temp control. Both of these things will make your life a little easier and will pay for themselves in the amount of aggravation you are saved.
Clarostats were good pots....I am not sure about the ones from Mexico...but give it a try.
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Chris Boyd
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Leonia,N.J./Charlestown,R.I.
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Posted 8 Feb 2013 6:27 am
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That is a good pot Roger...Do you know Larry Rodgers in Naples?? He builds Fender cabinets/baffles and is an extremely handy and nice guy... I'll bet he'd be willing to help ...His # is: 239-649-8799
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 8 Feb 2013 6:33 am
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I really appreciate everyone's help and advice - one thing's certain: I know more now than when I woke up this morning!
Chris:
I don't know Larry but have, of course, heard of him. I worked with a Ft Myers guitar-player last year who was raving about him and his work. I meant to look him up at the time but forgot. He sounds like a useful contact.
Bill's quite right, though, and I ought to be able to take care of the more basic tasks myself. I'm on it, guys!!!
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Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, B-bender Teles, Martins, and a Gibson Super 400!
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Jim Palenscar
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Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2013 8:15 am
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| The PEC 1 million cycle pots now sold by Goodrich have an HL at the end of the number- that one does not. |
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Joachim Kettner
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Germany
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Posted 8 Feb 2013 11:46 am
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| Roger Rettig wrote: |
Thanks, Richard and David - I'm going to have to get in the habit of unplugging it! I expect it'll remain a 'spare' for that reason.
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There's also the option to install an on/off switch. The former owner of mine did it by himself.
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Jerry Jones
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Franklin, Tenn.
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Posted 8 Feb 2013 1:37 pm
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| If there's no improvement in your sound of your latest Goodrich volume pedal, why not order a new 500K pot from Tom Bradshaw and convert your pedal to passive mode. Just by-pass the buffer....no battery needed. You can always return the pedal to an active one. |
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Chris Boyd
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Leonia,N.J./Charlestown,R.I.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 8 Feb 2013 3:06 pm
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That's what I did to one. I had a standard Goodrich pedal and the pot went belly up on me. I had a gig that night and there was a music store across the bay that sold steel guitars and accessories. I drove there to maybe get a new pot, but he was out of them, but had one of those Goodrich pedals with the electronics and the big black wheel on the side. I ended up buying it and after a while, I gutted the electronics and made it a standard pedal.
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David Higginbotham
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Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2013 6:44 pm
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| I've already, though, forgotten to unplug it!!! Those 9 volts aren't cheap any more so I must watch that. |
Roger, I wish I could count the times I've done the same thing. Left it plugged in for days and not realized it but still had plenty of life left in the battery. It will start to sound a little "fuzzy" for lack of better terminology when the battery gets low.
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Eric Philippsen
From:
Central Florida USA
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Posted 9 Feb 2013 4:24 am
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Just as info.
If the pedal is a newer one it's an L10K. If it's an older, silver one, it's probably a Model 6122 which has a large tone knob on the side. I know about it because it was the first volume pedal I bought 30-some years ago. It served me without failure throughout my "1001 barroom nights" years and I still have it.
It's still got the original potentiometer in it.
One of the things I noticed about the pedal was that the battery sure seemed to last a long time in it. I'm talking months..... playing lots of nights per week, 4-5 hours per night, easy.
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Howard Steinberg
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St. Petersburg, Florida , USA
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Posted 9 Feb 2013 5:23 am
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Some years ago I used a a 9 volt wall wart adaptor that snapped into the pedal just as a nine volt battery would. It had a wall wart on the other end and as a result the issue of leaving it plugged in became a non issue. I'm wondering if these can be found any longer.
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Jerry Erickson
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