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Topic: fender amps for pedal steel |
William Rasch
From: Vermont, USA
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Posted 16 Jan 2013 12:51 pm
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I know the twin reverb is held in high regard by players but have any folks here used bassman heads super six reverbs, showman heads etc for steel and what were your impressions? |
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Olli Haavisto
From: Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 16 Jan 2013 2:29 pm
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Bassmans work, especially SF ones. Super Six is the same amp as the Twin as is the Dual Showman Reverb. I`ve found that almost all Silverface amps work for steel, from the Princeton Reverb up. The Princeton won`t be enough power for most gigs but for singer/songwriter gigs it`s just right. Choose the model that has the power you need for your jobs. _________________ Olli Haavisto
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Bob Carlucci
From: Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 17 Jan 2013 8:59 am
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They all work, they all sound good.. Just depends on how loud you need to be.. Cleanest, "biggest" sounding Fender amp I ever used was a Quad Reverb.. Massive sound, massive weight..
If you ever need more than a Twin Reverb in any band, the band is way too loud... bob _________________ I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time...... |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 17 Jan 2013 3:44 pm
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Yes, they all work and sound good, although they'll sound much better when used with their respective speaker cabs. |
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William Rasch
From: Vermont, USA
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Posted 17 Jan 2013 4:44 pm
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I am currently using a black face bandmaster that I beefed up the filter caps on and made a few component changes in the board components to pump some fuller bass and remove some sag. I am using it with an Eminence eps15. Next step may be a larger output transformer. I should mention I am a longtime guitar player and know my way around fender amps quite well but I am a fairly newbee to PSG . I am quite pleased with my tone. Anyone have any specific tweeks they have performed on fenders to improve PSG tone? |
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Howard Montgomery
From: Topeka, KS US
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Posted 17 Jan 2013 8:01 pm
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I just completed a Bandmaster to steel amp project. Mainly a 15" EPS-15C speaker with a Magnetic Components Bassman Output transformer. Holes are already drilled so no modifications to the chassis. Also took out the polarity switch and moved the bias pot to that opening, and added bias test points where the aux outlet was. All reversible. Turned out ok. I like the new transformer. I would be interested in what preamp changes you made.
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billy tam R.I.P.
From: baton rouge, louisiana
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Posted 17 Jan 2013 8:35 pm Fender
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William, My current favorite out of my amps is a '67 Dual Showman head pushing two JBL 15" K-140's.
Hard to put into words, but think punchy, clear, sweet, ballsy warm, etc. Good Fender amps are really hard to beat.
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Dave Grafe
From: Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 17 Jan 2013 9:34 pm
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Take one Blues Deluxe ca 2005 with the original Accutronics Type 4 long-decay tank
Put a NOS RCA 12AT7 in V1
Put a JBL K120 inside the box
Have fun as desired
I added a second K120 in another, closed-back cabinet for extra bottom end on stage. The JBL's weigh more to be certain, but they put out more than twice the sound per watt than the lighter speakers. In essence the amp's 45 watts give me considerably more clean SPL through the JBL's as 100 watts could get me with the OEM speakers, and the JBL's have far better clarity and wider frequency response as well. |
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William Rasch
From: Vermont, USA
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Posted 18 Jan 2013 12:35 pm
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I like that cab Howard. Is that your work? Care to build another? Anyways heres what I have done with the bandmaster First I uped the values of the two main filter caps to 100mf from 70. I may try 220's. Changed the coupling capacitor on the phase inverter input to .02. Increased the value of the first gain stage bypass cap from 25mfd/25v to 250mfd/25. Also changed the 270 pf disc treble cap to a silver mica 240. I am also experimenting with turning the bright switch into a deep switch (aka bassman) with an additional .1 cap on the normal channel. Thats it for now. Power tubes are Phillips 7581a tall bottles. I have a new output tranny coming from david Allen that is much more iron but fits on the same mounting holes as the original. All of these changes have made significant improvements in the pedal steels tone |
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