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Topic: Fender Super Six Reverb |
John Phinney
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Long Beach California, USA
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Posted 10 Dec 2012 6:40 pm |
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Took the plunge and traded a @2000 Fender Blues Jr. which had been gathering dust (great amp for guitar BTW) for a Fender Super Six Reverb that had been transplanted into a home made 2x12 cab.
I read the Super Six is the same circuit as a SF twin. I'm hoping to transplant the chassis into a head cab and pair it with a 1x15 cab. I plan to go into the chassis and have a look at the point to point wiring when I have more time later in the week. It works and sounds good (tubes!), but I know its going to need some work (the vibrato is distorting when engaged, the pots are scratchy, and I'm sure it could use a good going over before being deemed gig ready).
Does anyone here have any experience with one of these? Is the chassis the same size as a SF Twin Reverb?
Here's some pics of the home made cab. Yeah its ugly now, but not for long.
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Stephen Cowell
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Round Rock, Texas, USA
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Posted 10 Dec 2012 11:35 pm
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Yes, same as Quad Reverb, etc... basically a MV 100w Twin. Used to own one myself.
Check the fuse!
Run it at 4ohms... the original cab was at 5.33 ohms... close enough, same transformer etc.
Have the death cap mod done... also set it up for bias instead of just balance. Try it stock otherwise before you BF it... do the filter caps too while you're in there.
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Bill L. Wilson
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Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 10 Dec 2012 11:44 pm
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| The Super Six, Quad Reverb, and Twin Reverb are all the same chassis. Your cabinet looks like it was built by Ray Charles, or Ronnie Millsap. You definitely made a great trade. And I would build separate cabinets for the head and speakers, cause these rascals are really heavy as combo amps. |
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Steve Schmidt
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Ramsey, MN, USA
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Posted 11 Dec 2012 4:24 am
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very nice find. I bought a chassis only of a super 6 reverb that was in rough shape and restored it myself. It is one of the early ones where the master volume doesn't pull out. I then built a cabinet myself using old pine I had in my garage and a dovetail jig my wife bought me for Christmas. I liked the old fender brown so I chose that tolex. Here is the finished result.
The finished project
I have since made a new baffle and have a Peavey 1203-4 12" installed. I absolutely love the single 12" speaker.
With it's mate, a 68 twin reverb wit D130. Occasionally, if the gig permits, I'll use both. Now there's premium sound.
The Super 6 is my main steel amp. I have other Peavey amps but when you're use to a Fender, nothing else hits the mark. Very nice find. |
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John Phinney
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Long Beach California, USA
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Posted 15 Dec 2012 3:33 pm
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Got a new head cab! Gonna have my local tube amp tech go over the insides so I have a qualified opinion on the work it'll need. Hopefully I can do most of the work myself. It has a 3 prong power cord so I think the death cap mod has already been done, but I'm guessing the filter caps will need to be replaced and it could probably use some new tubes.
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GFI Ultra D-10 8x5/Sarno Freeloader/Telonics volume pedal/Fender Super Six Split Cab with a 1x15 BW |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 20 Dec 2012 1:34 pm
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| John Phinney wrote: |
| Got a new head cab! Gonna have my local tube amp tech go over the insides so I have a qualified opinion on the work it'll need. Hopefully I can do most of the work myself. |
The Blackfaces and earlier ones are the only ones that usually have the "death cap", so there's no worrys about grounding with the S/F and later varieties. When you talk to the tube amp tech, remember to tell him you don't want any distortion or crunch! Most tube techs are oriented to straight guitar players, and they normally prefer distortion, in one form or another.  |
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Stephen Cowell
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Round Rock, Texas, USA
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Posted 20 Dec 2012 4:43 pm
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| Donny Hinson wrote: |
The Blackfaces and earlier ones are the only ones that usually have the "death cap", so there's no worrys about grounding with the S/F and later varieties. |
Donny, check for yourself...
http://www.webphix.com/schematic%20heaven/www.schematicheaven.com/fender.html
Every Twin until the Red Knob (evil!) has the .047/125VAC ground cap. After AA270 they put both fuse and switch in the hot lead and added center-lift for ground... and added 3-wire cord from the factory.
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John Phinney
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Long Beach California, USA
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Posted 21 Dec 2012 5:20 pm
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Well my tech told me to do the work I thought I could do before bringing the amp in. So today I gave it a good cleaning, replaced the filter caps, cleaned the jacks, sockets, switches, and pots, added some marshall style tube retainers and reflowed some cold solders.
Here's some pics of the insides:
Old filter caps:
New filter caps:
Marshall style tube retainers for the power tubes:
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John Phinney
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Long Beach California, USA
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Posted 19 Jan 2013 10:12 am
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The tech found a number of problems with the Super Six, including a half assed job converting the power to three prong that did leave the death cap in place. He fixed that and also went through and swapped out the electrolytics and a number of resistors. I finished up replacing just about all the other caps myself yesterday. I still have a couple 120pF silver mica caps I may eventually swap out on the Bright switches and a .002 Orange Drop for the reverb (though I've heard some people say to just remove that cap). I didn't replace the old ceramic .01 caps on the suggestion of the tech.
I also swapped a 56K ohm resistor for the 100K slope resistor in the vibrato channel. This is supposed to voice the channel better for Steel. It sounded pretty good yesterday and I'll be gigging with it tonight.
The vibrato channel now has a tick. I've read that Fender instructed its techs to solder a .1 cap from the left rear leg to the left front leg of the optocoupler. Anyone done this?
Tech also added the tube bias circuit. Metal film resistors were used on the power tube sockets. The tech left the unconnected ground switch in the chassis. I need to look for a cool mod that utilizes that switch.
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