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Why so many tunings?

Posted: 8 Jan 2013 11:15 pm
by Alexander Stepanenko
A lot of tunings for the steel guitar(non pedal)

A Major
E A C# E A C# E
A Major
A C# E A C# E
A Major
E A E A C# E
D Major
D A D F# A D
D Major
D D F# A D F#
E Major
E G# B E G# B E
E Major
E B E G# B E
G Major
G B D G B D
g Major
D G D G B D
C Minor 6th
A Eb G A C Eb G
C# Minor
E G# C# E G# C# E
C# Minor
E B E G# C# E
C# Minor 7
B D E G# C# E
F#min9
G# C# F# A E G# C# E
A6th
E A C# E F# A C# E
A6th
C# E F# A C# E
A6th
A A C# E F# A C# E
A6th
A C# E F# A C# E F#
A6th
F# A C# E F# A C# E
Bb6th
Bb D F G Bb D F G
Bb6th
G Bb D F G Bb D F
B6th
B D# F# G# B D# F# G#
B6th
G# B D# F# G# B D# F#
C6th
C E G A C E
C6th
A C E G A C E G
C6th
F A C E G A C E G D
C6th
G A C E G A C E
D6th
A B D F# A B D F#
D6th
F# A B D F# A B D
Eb6th
Bb C Eb G Bb C Eb G
E6th
B C# E G# B C# E G#
E6th
G# B C# E G# B C# E
E6th
A C# E G# B C# E G#
G6th
B D E G B D E G
G6th
G B D E G B D E
G6th
G B E G B D
A7th
E G A C# E A C# E
A7th
A C# E G A C# E G
A7th
G C# E A C# E
E7th
E B D E G# B E G#
E7th
G# B D E G# B E G#
E7th
E G# B D E G# B E
E7th
E D E G# B E
E7th
B D E G# B E
D9th
F# A C D F# A C E
D9th
D E F# A C E
D9th
F# A C E F# A C E
D9th
C E F# A C E
D9th
D A C E F# A C E
E9th
G# B D E F# G# B E
E9th
E G# B D F# G# B E
E9th
D E F# G# B E
E9th
E B D E F# G# B E
F#9th
F# A# E G# C# E
C13th
G Bb C E G A C E
C6th
Bb E G A C E
C6th
Bb E G A C E G
C6th
C Bb C E G A C E
C6th
Bb C E G A C E G
D13th
C F# A B D F#
D13th
C D F# A B D
E13th
E G# B D E G# C# E
E13th
D E F# G# C# E
E13th
E B D E F# G# C# E
E13th
D E F# G# B C# E G#
E13th
D F# G# B C# E
E13th
D E G# B C# E
E13th
E B D F# G# B C# E
E13th
E D E G# B C# E G#
E13th
E B D E G# B C# E
E13th
E G# B D F# G# C# E
E13th
B D E G# B C# E G#
E13th
E G# D F# G# B C# E
E13th
G# B D E G# B C# E
F#13th
F# D# F# A# E G# C# E
A6+F#7
A# C# E F# A C# E
C6th+A7
C# E G A C E
C6th+A7
A C C# E G A C E
C6th+A7
B A C# E G A C E
C6th+D9th
F# A C E G A C E
C9+A7
C# E G Bb C D
D Major 7+E9
G# B D F# A C# E G#
G Maj 7+C
C G E G B D E F#
A Diatonic
D F F# G# A B C# E
C Diatonic
E F G A B C E
E Harp
C# E F F# G G# A B C# E

and only a few thousand Steel Guitarists
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Only one tuning for guitar
E A D G B E
and hundreds of millions of guitarists.

Why?

Posted: 9 Jan 2013 6:10 am
by Ben Rubright
The bar is straight and does not have fingers.

Posted: 9 Jan 2013 6:25 am
by Franklin
No pedals to change the tuning.

Posted: 9 Jan 2013 6:59 am
by Paul Graupp
Maybe it's just a matter of personal tastes...like hamburgers...

Posted: 9 Jan 2013 8:50 am
by Daniel Haymore
There are many alternate tunings for guitar as well.

Maybe not as many as there are for our beloved steel, but I continue to be surprised by new tunings I hear of people using for guitar.

Posted: 9 Jan 2013 9:32 am
by Rick Collins
A steel guitar tuned to any chord or combination of chords can be called a tuning;
only about eight are practical for playing, without the use of devices for raising and lowering the pitch of individual strings.

Posted: 9 Jan 2013 10:11 am
by Ray Thomas
Alexander, over here there's many bars to play in, sometimes the tuning will change several times before midnight and then you go to the next bar, new tuning

Posted: 9 Jan 2013 12:19 pm
by David Mason
Why so many musicians? Can't we just find the one best one, and we'll all imitate him?

Why so many different kinds of food?

What's the best chord ever...

Folks are just squirmy, that's all.

Posted: 9 Jan 2013 1:47 pm
by Roger Rettig
"Why so many musicians? Can't we just find the one best one, and we'll all imitate him? "

No thanks, David!!!! I couldn't stand the pressure!!

:D

Posted: 9 Jan 2013 2:05 pm
by Jay Fagerlie
Because we want them.

Is any more discussion needed?

Posted: 9 Jan 2013 3:15 pm
by Mike Neer
Because we can!

Posted: 9 Jan 2013 4:43 pm
by Bill McCloskey
Because otherwise we'd actually have to really learn one.

Posted: 9 Jan 2013 11:25 pm
by Alexander Stepanenko
Mike and Jay, thanks for the positive, it unlike tunings, so little :)
But all the same I think, sooner or later ,there will be one or two tuning .. And this is confirmed by the sellers strings-are mostly sold C6 and E9. And it will be good. In the music stores will notes for the steel guitar. Self-help. Fender release of a new Stringmaster. There will be many new famous steel guitarists and one of them may even come with a concert in Moscow :D

Posted: 10 Jan 2013 4:12 pm
by Jay Fagerlie
Alexander, do you play steel guitar?
If yes, you should know why there are so many- it's about being able to play the song.

If you want to ask a question about tunings, ask "why" someone used this or that tuning, or what song they used the tuning on.

That question just may get you better answers from us in the peanut gallery :lol:

All those pesky tunings..............

Posted: 10 Jan 2013 8:11 pm
by Ray Montee
In days of olde, those tunings were as much an identifier for the individual players 'sound' as were the types of songs he/she chose to play.

One could always tell Jerry Byrd Billy Robinson, Don Helms, Roy Wiggins, Herb Remington, etc., by 'the sound' comprised of the specific tuning and the manner in which it was played.

After Jeff Newmans' success at teaching thousands of would-be players "HIS STYLE"......., it wasn't long before everyone in the country was playing Jeff's speed picking riffs in virtually every song of the night. It got tiresome hearing this same stuff in virtually every musical setting you might care to visit. One can still hear some of those familiar riffs if you pay attention.

I surely miss the different/distinctive sounds of Hal Rugg, John Hughey, Jerry Byrd, Roy Wiggins, Curley Chalker, etc.

Posted: 11 Jan 2013 1:08 am
by Michael Weaver
Александр,Он уверен, это здорово видеть кого-то из России на форуме. Моя жена является русский язык. Она жила в Краснодарском крае. Мы обычно идут в Россию ежегодно навестить родственников в Воронеже. Я часто спрашивал себя, ли кто играет на гитаре стали в России.

Re: All those pesky tunings..............

Posted: 11 Jan 2013 2:47 am
by Alexander Stepanenko
Jay Fagerlie wrote:Alexander, do you play steel guitar?
If yes, you should know why there are so many- it's about being able to play the song.

If you want to ask a question about tunings, ask "why" someone used this or that tuning, or what song they used the tuning on.

That question just may get you better answers from us in the peanut gallery :lol:
Sorry,I don't know what is the "peanut gallery".. You work there?
I study to play on steel guitar,and therefore ask different questions.
Ray Montee wrote:In days of olde, those tunings were as much an identifier for the individual players 'sound' as were the types of songs he/she chose to play.
Ray,I'm learning to play ,by copying the different masters of the steel guitar. And of course I want to repeat as accurately as possible what they played.Fingering,touchs. On your great jerrybyrd-fanclub.com, I downloaded a wonderful Jerry Byrd Sweet Corn. But unfortunately,the originals in the C6 is very low.
I like Sol Hoopii,but he was in A.Leon McAuliffe but he is in E, etc.. Have to transpose, and this is already not the same. This is why I asked this question-joke. Imagine,comes on the first classes in the music school of the young Steel guitarist,and his teacher asked me what tune you prefer and lists all of the 50 tunings. Disciple with horror runs out of class and goes to the next ,where the teaching of simple guitar. Of course I'm joking.
And I understand you when you speak of" the individual players 'sound' ",because this is true now.

Posted: 11 Jan 2013 2:55 am
by Alexander Stepanenko
Michael Weaver wrote:Александр,Он уверен, это здорово видеть кого-то из России на форуме. Моя жена является русский язык. Она жила в Краснодарском крае. Мы обычно идут в Россию ежегодно навестить родственников в Воронеже. Я часто спрашивал себя, ли кто играет на гитаре стали в России.
Thank you,Michael! But on this wonderful forum, I was probably the only one from Russia.


Michael, did you write this with the machine translator?

Posted: 12 Jan 2013 12:49 am
by Michael Weaver
Sasha,
Yes, I did. I used Bing translator. It seems to be very accurate, as far as I have been told. While I can speak enough Russian to "get by", I am certainly far from fluent. I am hoping to go again this summer, which will be my 6th time there.

Posted: 12 Jan 2013 12:47 pm
by Alexander Stepanenko
Michael, I'm terrified of how the translator. :whoa: :whoa: I also use Bing. If my English is the same as your Russian translation,then I'd better yet not write anything :eek: :eek: :eek:

Posted: 13 Jan 2013 3:50 am
by Michael Weaver
If you are using the Bing translator for all your posts here, everything is fine, I can assure you.

Posted: 13 Jan 2013 8:54 am
by Niels Andrews
A C6 tuning will last you the rest of your life, and when you master that, you won't need to ask such questions. :)

Posted: 13 Jan 2013 8:55 am
by Niels Andrews
A C6 tuning will last you the rest of your life, and when you master that, you won't need to ask such questions. :)

Posted: 13 Jan 2013 1:12 pm
by Alexander Stepanenko
Yes! C6 forever! :D

Posted: 13 Jan 2013 1:24 pm
by Tony Prior
because we can...plus in the OLDEN days when three necks were common, the value of having 3 different tunings was excellent, it allowed the timbre of the Instrument to ring thru without choking the tuning hi up on the neck and additionally the player was able to play in several OPEN positions on the same Instrument.. Now all we need is a 3 neck Dobro !