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Justin Jacobson

 

From:
Rochester, MN
Post  Posted 27 Feb 2012 12:00 pm    
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Hey all,

SO I am still pretty new to the steel guitar, only been playing for a couple years now. And I've run into my first mechanical issue, since I have very little in the way of knowledge of how to fine tune the underside of my steel (it scares me a little under there) I was hoping someone could give me some tips.

My Left knee Left lever when released after being engaged will not return all the way which leaves me about a quarter step out of tune. When I looked at the underside I noticed the lever has a spring attached to it to pull the lever back to position and I was unsure if/how I should go about tightening that up. Or if I need to loosen something else.

Oh it's a sho-bud pro-II if that helps.

Thanks for helping me out.
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Carl Kilmer


From:
East Central, Illinois
Post  Posted 27 Feb 2012 12:23 pm    
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Hi Justin. Sounds like the return is loosing tension.
If it's adjustable you can tighten it up a little. if
not cut 1 or 2 windings off to give it more strength.
You might want to check the changer and crossrods to
see if there binding somewhere. That will always give
you the problems of strings not returning to pitch.
Where in Ill. are you, I'm 10 miles South of Marshall.
Carl
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Dave Grafe


From:
Hudson River Valley NY
Post  Posted 27 Feb 2012 2:25 pm    
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Look to see if the string is properly aligned on the bridge finger, if it is crooked it will cause the finger to bind and cause the problem you describe.

This happened to me not long ago, most likely I knocked the bridge hard enough to push the string sideways while putting it into the case.
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Quentin Hickey

 

From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
Post  Posted 27 Feb 2012 4:57 pm    
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Check to see that the sleeves on the end of the rod arent catching on anything as you disengage the lever. Two people are better than one for this experiment.
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Justin Jacobson

 

From:
Rochester, MN
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2012 8:25 am    
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Thanks for the recommendations guys.I'm still not sure how to go about fixing this though.

Also the LKL raises my E to F like most standard E9. I do not have any problem with the C pedal raising it to F# or the LKR lowering it to Eb.

Dave, wouldn't the string binding in the bridge effect all of these?

Cal, should I look into adjusting the springs down by the bridge or the spring near the lever itself? I have a feeling it's the one by the lever itself but I'd hate to tinker to much under there and mess things up.
Also I'm in Chicago, so if anyone knows of someone here who might be willing to help me out let me know.

I'd really like to get a better handle on the underside of the steel.
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Carl Kilmer


From:
East Central, Illinois
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2012 8:43 am    
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Justin,
If you have a spring adjustment at the changer for
each string, find the one for the 4th string and turn
it clockwise 1 or 2 turns at a time to make it pull a
bit harder. It should't need a very much adjustment.
Carl
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Earnest Bovine


From:
Los Angeles CA USA
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2012 11:28 am    
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Carl Kilmer wrote:
..spring .. make it pull a
bit harder. It should't need a very much adjustment.
Carl

True. If if needs a lot of tightening, then something is not moving freely somewhere.
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Jim Eaton


From:
Santa Susana, Ca
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2012 11:45 am    
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As no one else has mentioned this, get a flashlight and look in every nook and cranny of the changer for the ball end of a broken spring stuck up in there someplace that is causing the problem.

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Phil Ajjarapu

 

From:
Portland, via Austin, TX via Chicago
Post  Posted 29 Feb 2012 7:48 am    
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I had this same issue on my RKR lowering my Es to Eb.
Jim Flynn of Lonestar Guitars gave me this advice which helped me out.


Jim Flynn wrote:

Try loosening the plastic tuning nuts until you have about 1/16th" clearance before they touch the changer.
check your open E tuning, tune open.
Check the KL stop screw it may be to far out letting the KL over travel. Screw it in a couple of turns.
Now engage and tune the nuts to Eb(D#). It may take a few time to get it just right.

It sounds like over pulling which causes the rod to bind in the thru hole in the changer.
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Walter Glockler

 

From:
Northern New Mexico
Post  Posted 4 Dec 2012 11:58 am    
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Justin, just read your post today after making a search "knee lever not returning". Did you solve the problem and if yes, how?
Thanks.
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