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Topic: Whats the right way to say "lever"? |
Don McClellan
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 2:06 pm |
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| Does lever rhyme with never or beaver? Don |
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William Lake
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 2:26 pm
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Depends if it's used as a noun or a verb.
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Bobby D. Jones
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West Virginia, USA
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 2:50 pm Whats the right way to say lever
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| A lot depends on where you live in the U.S.A. I was an equipment operator in the Army Construction Engineers. Dozers, Graders and Crains had all kind of LEVERS to pull to make the equipment work. It was according to what part of the US you was from what you called it. It may go back to the English Teachers we had in school. |
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Russ Wever
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Kansas City
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 3:07 pm
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It can rhyme with either one of those
words depending on how you pronounce it.
~> Click
~Russ
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Dick Sexton
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Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 3:10 pm From my Grandpa!
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Lever(short E)... How ya get the buggy prized up ta change out the wheel.
Lever(Long E)... What ya better do ta that woman there. She just aint no count.
The Lever on my steel is pullin and prizin gismos around, so it is a Short E for me!
Maybe not if your kin to the salsa guy from New York City. |
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James Kerr
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Scotland, UK
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 3:39 pm
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| It might depend what Colour the Lever is too. |
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Ray Anderson
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Jenkins, Kentucky USA
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 4:08 pm
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Been a long time but here goes: Would there have to be a double consonant to have a short E? Seems I remember something to that effect.  Could be a senoir moment as well.  |
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Don McClellan
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California/Thailand
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 4:25 pm
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| The word "never" does not have a double consonant. |
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 4:31 pm
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No-one from the Old Country would use the short 'e' - unless they wanted to sound as though they were from here!
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Michael Hummel
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Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 4:36 pm
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Okay...I'm from "The Colonies" (Canada) but allow me to expound upon my knowledge of "proper" (useless?) English as I was taught in school:
If the word has a single vowel ('e') followed by a single consonant ('v'), followed by another vowel ('e'), then the first vowel ('e') should be pronounced as the long 'e'.
So technically, at least according to Queen Elizabeth, it should be "leaver" (rhymes with "beaver").
I just realized that I pronounce it as "levver" maybe because as a new player I've been listening to Jeff Newman's videos.
Mike
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Ray Anderson
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Jenkins, Kentucky USA
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 5:02 pm
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Hey, if Jeff said it, then this thread is as good as finished. Problem solved   |
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 5:34 pm
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Hmmm - it doesn't sound as if he taught English as well as I'm told he taught steel!
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Ben Lawson
From:
Brooksville Florida
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 5:58 pm
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| Roger I met guitarist Ray Flack some years ago and when I told him I had seven (short E) knee levers (long E) he told me that he approved of my pronounciation. He seemed like a very nice guy. |
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 6:09 pm
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Ah, yes, Ben - but Ray's a bit of a cockney and they can't really speak properly!!!
He IS a nice guy, though.
I remember being in Nashville when Van Manakas first moved there with Patience. I took Van to the bar where Ray was playing and introduced him saying - 'Ray, this is Van - he's a really fine guitarist and he's just moved to town...'
With a twinkle in his eye Ray said: 'Ah!!! Just what we need here in Nashville - another great guitarist!!!'
You had to be there but it was funny and Van loved it.
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Dickie Whitley
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 6:38 pm
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| Why does it matter? Say it the way that makes you happy and be done with it. Everyone is going to have an opinion and yours is just as good as anybody elses. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 7:08 pm
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Whichever rolls off the tongue.
I almost always use the short E if not preceded by the word "knee" and a long E if "knee" comes first
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Michael Hummel
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Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 7:13 pm
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Know what's really crazy? I think I can remember saying to someone that my guitar has "Four knee 'leavers'", and then in the next sentence that my "F 'levver'" was broken.
Of course the person I was speaking to had no idea whatsoever what I was talking about and I might as well have said that my dog had four heads.
Mike
edit: Lane posted before me. Exactly what I just said!
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Joseph Meditz
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Sierra Vista, AZ
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Posted 7 Nov 2012 8:59 pm
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| Roger Rettig wrote: |
| No-one from the Old Country would use the short 'e' - unless they wanted to sound as though they were from here! |
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/american_english/lever?region=us&q=lever
I never say lever however, the first pronunciation, which is usually the preferred one, has a short e in the OED. And a couple of online dictionaries also prefer the short e version. Of course leever is not wrong. |
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Clete Ritta
From:
San Antonio, Texas
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Posted 8 Nov 2012 3:58 am
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Either pronunciation is correct.
Do you say either as ee-ther or i-ther?
Clete |
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Jeff Garden
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Center Sandwich, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 8 Nov 2012 4:21 am
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| If Trevor Weaver has a fever, never ever let him leave a lever or a cleaver with a clever beaver. Clear as mud, right? |
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Peter Harris
From:
South Australia, Australia
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Posted 8 Nov 2012 5:15 am
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As Dundee would say:
"That's not a levver...THIS is a LEAVER!"
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Dave Mudgett
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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 8 Nov 2012 6:13 am
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| Does lever rhyme with never or beaver? |
The answer is yes. |
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Jim Palenscar
From:
Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 8 Nov 2012 6:39 am
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| neither- it's pronounced "knee bar" |
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Roual Ranes
From:
Atlanta, Texas, USA
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Posted 8 Nov 2012 8:08 am
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| Gizmo! |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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