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Greg Vincent


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Folsom, CA USA
Post  Posted 6 Nov 2012 8:11 am    
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Hi folks!

Question: Are flat-wound strings more susceptible to hysteresis?
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Tab Tabscott


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Somewhere between Vashon Island and The mainland.
Post  Posted 6 Nov 2012 8:55 am    
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Hmmm...
Is this what that means? Or is just practicing the same riff over and over and having it get worse and worse the more you do it....? Or is it something pitch related what with getting alternately raised and lowered?

From Wikipedia...
"...Hysteresis is the dependence of a system not only on its current environment but also on its past environment. This dependence arises because the system can be in more than one internal state. To predict its future development, either its internal state or its history must be known.[1] If a given input alternately increases and decreases, the output tends to form a loop as in the figure. However, loops may also occur because of a dynamic lag between input and output. Often, this effect is also referred to as hysteresis, or rate-dependent hysteresis. This effect disappears as the input changes more slowly, so many experts do not regard it as true hysteresis..."
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Stan Paxton


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Post  Posted 6 Nov 2012 3:29 pm    
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Shocked
Tab, that thar wikipedia shore is smart; splains it bettern I ever could. Laughing
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 6 Nov 2012 4:11 pm    
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I don't really think flatwounds have a hysteresis problem as much as they do a tone problem. Even when they are new, they sound rather "dead" to me, and that's why I've avoided them. No "sparkle", no "twang"...just thud...thud...thud.
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Greg Vincent


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Folsom, CA USA
Post  Posted 7 Nov 2012 8:21 am    
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Yeah Donny, that's what I would expect. But a buddy tried them and liked them for his indie-rock stuff. However, string 8 on his E9 would not come back in tune when raised & lowered, and putting a wound string back on there solved the problem, so I was just wondering. Hmmm....
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Fred Glave


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McHenry, Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 7 Nov 2012 12:58 pm    
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I had to put on a set of flat wounds last month when I broke a string and couldn't find my other packs of round wounds. Let's just say that when I found the round wounds I put em on just as fast as I could. I can't even remember buying those flats.
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