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Howard Pedal Steels

Posted: 23 Oct 2012 2:50 am
by Emery Palmer
Hello everyone. I am a new member to the forum from West Central WI. Have lurked for a long time. I am a banjo player new to pedal steel. Have had a multi-cord for about two months and ready to move up to a "modern" steel. I am having trouble locating info on Howard pedal steels and am looking at a S10 3+4 and cant seem to find reviews of the company. It is about $1000 and wondering if this is a good first steel? Any info or links would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Emery Palmer
P.S. Please advise if this is the worng place to post.

Posted: 23 Oct 2012 5:09 am
by Tony Williamson
I think about 3 of us banjer pickers on the forum is about all they can stand..lol these guys are great and will help you with just about anything. I wish banjo players had a forum as great as this. Welcome...enjoy the forum.

howard pedal steels

Posted: 23 Oct 2012 6:01 am
by Paul Wade
here you go info on howard pedal steels
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/008518.html

p.w

Posted: 23 Oct 2012 6:17 am
by Stephen Cowell
Hey, Emery... enjoy the 'de-lurk'... you are no longer 'lurking'.

I've never heard of Howard psg's... not sure if you're quoting a new or used price. Let's go go google it...

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central- ... t-one.html

Looks like Mr. McCormick was quite the genius... perhaps you're talking about the $995 guitar on eBay...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dl ... rid=229466

Is this the one we're talking about? Since it's not a standard brand I'd steer you away from it unless you're a collector.

Posted: 23 Oct 2012 6:18 am
by Joe Naylor
Nothing against a Howard but I would not call that one modern.

As mentioned before on the forum they were all unique.

I have seen two - one in a box of parts.

and I think b0b has outlawed banjo players :D

Just kiddin about the banjo deal but 40+ year old steels all unique is not a path I would think would be a good idea for a person starting out on the pedal steel - too many good choices out there

Joe Naylor
www.steelseat.com

Posted: 23 Oct 2012 7:03 am
by Lane Gray
Unless you're part Gyro Gearloose or Characitus Potts, I'd steer clear

Posted: 23 Oct 2012 7:13 am
by Emery Palmer
Thanks,
It was the one linked to on feebay. I appreciate the help. I will steer clear for starters. I am looking to spend under $1400. Was looking at a Stage One but wonder if I may be better off going for a used pro model. I want something I don't have to spend to much time trying to set up so I can try to learn to play!

Thanks again.

Posted: 23 Oct 2012 7:25 am
by Jason Putnam
Definitely go with the Stage One! It is a fabulous instrument and is great for learning. Plus, it has WARANTY if anything should be wrong with it. And Doug Earnest is one of the best guys you will deal with. And if you want to move up to a professional model later, the Stage One has excellent resale value. So you cant go wrong with it. With the three pedals and four knees, there is plenty of learning to do!!!![/b][/u]

Posted: 23 Oct 2012 9:10 am
by Lane Gray
It depends: If you have your heart set on playing C6 early in, for the money you could get a used D-10.
If the E9 neck is the main thing you want, it appears a mistake to call the Stage One a starter axe. Several pros use them as airplane guitar. (There are others in that category as well)

Steel Shoppers

Posted: 23 Oct 2012 4:03 pm
by Bill Alexander
I just recieved my first new steel guitar built by Don Burrows. "BSG Steel Guitars" and i couldn't be happier. Excellent quality and workmanship and Don is one of the most accomodating gentlemen you could ask for. Check out his web site. It's worth your time.
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Posted: 23 Oct 2012 6:20 pm
by Larry Jamieson
Emery, There is currently an MSA pedal steel on
ebay. It says "The Universal" on the front of it and
it is a super sustain model. This guitar is a very
well built, solid, Pro-level guitar which would make
you an excellent guitar. They are heavy, but very well built and bullet proof.
Your other option is to wait for a used Carter or
some other known name brand in your price range.
There are several good qualty student guitars such as
the Zum Stage One and the GFI Expo that are good
instruments. Avoid the Carter Starter and the old
Shobud Maverick...
Larry J.

Posted: 23 Oct 2012 6:39 pm
by Roual Ranes
I had a Howard 12 UNI for about a year. It worked okay but I went to a D10. I think you can do better for 1 grand.

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Posted: 24 Oct 2012 6:20 am
by Paul Wade

Posted: 24 Oct 2012 7:43 am
by Herb Steiner
Bobby Garrett used to play a Howard amp back in the late 60's when he was on Dewey Grooms' band at the Longhorn Ballroom.

On Reece's recommendation I went to Tom's shop in Grand Prairie back in the early 70's to get some quick repair on my Twin Reverb while on a short Dallas tour. Tom was a totally fascinating guy to listen to, sort of an eccentric type. Think Christopher Lloyd's character in "Back to the Future." :lol:

Interesting sidebar about the Murph guitar talked about on the Telecaster Forum: Pat Murphy's daughter, Patty, was Jimmy Bryant's last wife. I became good friends with her when I worked with Bryant during my last two years in Los Angeles, 71-72. I never saw JB play a Murph guitar, this was after the Fender lawsuit. He always used his ES-355 Gibson on gigs during that period.