The Steel Guitar Forum

Have you ever opened up a web page and then realized, you kinda wish you hadn't... I was first "turned on" to the Daddy people by Ian McWee of UK's Diamond Bottlenecks, who lay out a pretty extravagant bar-porn website their own selves, highlighted by the hand-blown leaded crystal bullets. But Daddy Slide actually machines each slide out of a solid billet of their secret special bronze, whatever size, length, thickness, taper you can imagine. You don't have to disgrace your finger anymore with that cheap, "extruded pipe" junk - it's all about the alignment of the molecules, you see. And they make tone bars including "Peter's One":



http://www.daddyslide.de/index.php/en/tonebar/petersone

Whoa, Nelly! Yip Yip! But 90 euros is a lot, right? 90 euros is too much! Righ...but a TriboTone is $130! Ceramic bars are 150... bu.. b... sss...

And in an extraordinarily-suspicious "coincidence" I now find that the Peter Funk (of the Oneness) has just joined the forum! Uh-oh. I'm a-hidin' under my bed - just till my own molecules realign.

david how do you get a hold. of one of their bars- slides . i was going to email them and i cant read german any ideas thanks

I'm sorry, but I can't see paying that kind of money for a steel no matter how much work went into it. Its like what Jerry Byrd said about fancy equipment. Then there was some other wise-guy who said, "For that price it should play itself."

... oh, just to make sure: I'm not related to "DaddySlide" in any way. It was just my idea of a perfect shape. And they were interested and able to realize it.
I don't get any benefit out of the sales proceeds (if someone thought so)!

But anyway, (for me!) it's the perfect shape and the material really reduces string noise, which may not be so important with an electric guitar, but I can hear the difference on my Weissenborn.

At least: Mine is half an inch shorter (which is about the length of an SP-2). Since they are custom made, it should be no problem, to get them in a desired length.

PS: Yes, they are not cheap

this seems very similar to the sp2 designed by peter grant (even the 'petersone' name seems a little like a ripoff) and the sp2 is available at a fraction of the cost...as it should be!

I got all excited when these slides were first mentioned on Reso-Nation, and ordered immediately. They're nice slides, very quiet, and with a warmer tone than my usual EG Smith stainless, but I couldn't get comfortable with the grip, and moved it along.

Cost wise, I think it has to be put into perspective. I'm not terribly concerned about dropping 90 euros if it'll make my $10k+ dobro/Weissenborn collection sound better. Sure, it's a lot of money for a piece of polished metal, but the cost represents dinner and a movie these days. Jan puts a lot of work into these things, and deserves some compensation.

FWIW, I sent one of my beat-up Smiths to a guy who is polishing and reworking stainless bars - for $40, it came back reshaped and polished to a high mirror finish - noticeably quieter, and a bit snappier on pulloffs. Definitely worth the $$. PM me if anyone wants contact info for this service.

I'm afraid my knowledge of polished metallurgy only extends as far as my toolbox. I mean, I know that if you want a mirror shine on a bar, if you were to try to go from the 600-grit wet/dry paper stage straight to the White Polish No. 7 stage, it would take an exceedingly long time, might even be impossible. But if you go through the 600-grit, to the 1500 grit paper, then to the Mother's Mag Polish, then to the No.7, it will shine. I would assume that the numbers on papers mean something. Like, are 5 chunks of 600 grit the same size as 20 chunks of 1500 grit? Are these in any way expressible as a percentage of, say, a .010" steel string, or a molecule of steel? I mean, you can feel the drag on a bar that's only polished to the 1500-somethings stage, so that's like dragging a mountain range across another mountain range (molecularly-speaking), right?

When you say you "polish" a metal bar, are you just breaking off molecule-by-molecule until they're roughly even, or is there detritus of half-molecules, one-tenth-molecules piling up between the full ones? I sure hope you're not splitting atoms without a permit. Is the "hardness" of a material somehow related to it's willingness or unwillingness to fracture along sub-molecular lines? If you change brands of papers, do you have to start all over with the number system? This matters because there is a brand of paper from Micro-Mark which claims to go to 12,000 somethings.... If the Hindus really knew all this 5,000 years ago, how come no one's told me?

Well, here's a good start: how many molecules wide IS a 0.010" string, and 600 whats are on a piece of 600-grit sandpaper...

Ive just taken delivery of a new Shubb SP2 - solid stainless steel - and at £28 (GB £s) its brilliant, very quiet, very smooth, great, size, weight and shape - feels much better than my plated Shubbs.
Im afraid I dont have the money to go for these Daddy Slides but Im not sure that my playing would notice that much difference.
I think similarly with visual stuff, Im very happy with watching ordinary DVDs cant think that Blueray would add much for me!