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Need a Measurement From Your Steels

Posted: 31 May 2012 12:36 pm
by Jon Light
I need the measurement from the center of the output jack on the end plate to the top of the deck. Does not need to be micrometer accurate. Closest 1/4" will do.

I have 5 PSG's here and each is quite different. I'd love to get the measurement on as many makes as possible and info such as "the **** steel guitar is 3 1/2" on the earlier models but changed to 4" after 1985...." gets bonus points and plaid stamps.

Thanks in advance for your data.


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Posted: 31 May 2012 12:44 pm
by Chris Boyd
Jon.. On both of my Buds.. Professional and Pro III roundfront,it is 3-1/8 from the middle of the output jack to the top of the E9 deck....

Posted: 31 May 2012 12:48 pm
by Ken Pippus
Carter D-10, the step from one neck to the other is centered directly over the jack. 2" to E9 deck, 1-3/4" to C6.

What are you building?

KP

Posted: 31 May 2012 12:58 pm
by Jon Light
For this project (for which I've now got all parts ordered or in house)

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=226142

I am investigating then practicality of providing the option to plug the box directly into the jack in order to put the tone control right by your picking hand (wah!). It requires a stabilizing arm which is being a design challenge due to the variety of different placements of the jack.

Thanks, gents. Keep 'em coming, folks!

Posted: 31 May 2012 5:14 pm
by Douglas Schuch
Zumsteel Anniversary U-12, 1 3/8 inches to center of jack.

Posted: 31 May 2012 6:24 pm
by Frank Montmarquet
Sierra U-12 2 1/2 to deck with arm rest, 2 3/4 to neck.

Mine...

Posted: 31 May 2012 6:33 pm
by Dick Sexton
Derby SD10, 1 3/4 inches...
Marlen S10, 1 3/4 inches...

Posted: 31 May 2012 10:33 pm
by CrowBear Schmitt
on my Zum D10 just under 2"
the jack is smack dab in the middle - between the tuning windows

Posted: 1 Jun 2012 5:07 am
by Jon Light
Thanks for the further additions. I welcome more.

My own info:

ShoBud S-12 (Pro 1)
--2 3/8"

Emmons SD-12 p/p
--1 7/8" to back neck
--2 1/8" to front neck

Fessenden SD-12 (2006)
--3" to back deck .......positioned under back deck; presumably would be centered between necks on a true D-12
This is way down near the bottom of the end plate. I'd be interested in getting more responses on Fessies as to whether these are just eyeballed or if they follow a template.

Carter SD-12 (1998)
--1 3/4" back
--2 1/4" front

BMI S-10 (1983)
--1 1/2"....... positioned on back apron

Posted: 1 Jun 2012 5:14 am
by Lane Gray
Right now I'm a couple hundred miles from my guitars (Zum and MSA), but remember that MSA put the output on the rear apron, not the endplate.

Posted: 1 Jun 2012 10:35 am
by Michael Maddex
Jon Light wrote:. . . I am investigating then practicality of providing the option to plug the box directly into the jack . . .
Nice to see you back and posting again, Jon.

In the FWIW department, I recently built a little black box to control the volume on a guitar with a pickup, jack and no controls. It plugs directly into the guitar and then the cord plugs into it. My feeling is that where the plug comes out of the box is a weak point in the design. If I were to do it again, I would try to come up with a design where I could use a short cord to the guitar and figure out some sort of a clamp/bracket to secure the box to the guitar.

The guitar in this case is a metal-body, square-neck tri-cone. Like all those hyphens?

Anyway, here's a photo:

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The left photo is the top of the box; the right photo is to bottom with the back removed.

HTH. Good luck with your project.

Posted: 1 Jun 2012 11:03 am
by Jon Light
Hi Michael. I have done similar projects in the past and I agree---especially if your guitar has a tight fitting jack it can feel a bit hairy, pulling the box/plug out of the jack. It is a mechanical weak link and is the likely first point of failure, if and when....
I've got a slightly different approach in mind (which, forgive me, I will demonstrate if and when I use this option).
But one certainty---this 'feature', if I use it, will be supplemental. The primary implementation of the box will indeed be as a leg clip-on with female jacks. I'm being delayed by a back-order but I expect to have some pictures to show soon.
Thanks for sharing that, Michael. I appreciate it.

Why do I suddenly have an urge to go to Jack-In-The-Box for a burger?

Posted: 1 Jun 2012 5:30 pm
by Clete Ritta
Carter D10: 2" and 1 3/4" split same as above.
Fessenden U12: 3 1/4"
Mullen SD10 (narrow): 2 1/4" and 2 1/2" split

Clete

Posted: 2 Jun 2012 2:47 am
by Jan Ekenberg
Rains SD10 (2006): 2 1/4" and 2" (split as above).

Posted: 2 Jun 2012 4:34 am
by Darrell Grigsby
ShowPro-SD-10

Distance is split, as top is stepped. 2-13/16 and

3-1/16


Darrell Grigsby

Posted: 2 Jun 2012 7:47 am
by Larry Rafferty
On The Pedalmaster the input jack is not on the end plate.
It is on the back (chair side). It is 2 3/4" from the end plate and 2 3/4" down from bottom of arm pad.
The Mullen Pre RP is 2 3/4" down from the end plate. The Dekley is 2 5/8" from the top of the end plate

whoops!

Posted: 2 Jun 2012 8:33 am
by Michael Maddex
Whoops! Forgot to answer the original question :oops:

On my Fender 400 distance is 3 3/8"

Top edge is rounded over and set back a bit from the frame

Posted: 2 Jun 2012 10:04 am
by Jon Light
I'm appreciating the contributions to my database. I'm getting a good picture. I welcome continued input.

Posted: 2 Jun 2012 11:19 am
by Joe A. Camacho
ZB's input jack is under the guitar.

Posted: 2 Jun 2012 3:24 pm
by Steve Reynolds
2009 MSA Legend D10
E9 - 1 1/2
C6 - 1 1/4
1999 LaGarritt D10
E9 - 2 5/8
C6 - 2 3/8
Steve R.

Posted: 3 Jun 2012 10:14 am
by Bob Kagy
2009 GFI D10

2 1/2" to top of E9th deck

Posted: 3 Jun 2012 1:44 pm
by Jon Light
And again, thank you for the responses. I knew I'd get enough info to work with.

Posted: 4 Apr 2013 5:50 am
by Matthew Schwartz
My Stage One is 1 3/4"

Posted: 4 Apr 2013 6:03 am
by Jeff Scott Brown
GFI Ultra S-10 is 1 11/16".


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Posted: 4 Apr 2013 6:51 am
by Adrian Wang
Fessenden S10 3 inches