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Topic: Bb6 12th string: pros and cons |
Lane Gray
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Posted 24 May 2012 8:00 am |
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I've noticed David Wright has Bb, Reece has C.
I know there's a handful more out here.Who's running which, and why? I've got her strung up and have begun rodding this monster up, but haven't gotten down to the deep strings,and just thought I'd see who does what, and what the relative advantages and disadvantages are.
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Ron Randall
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Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 24 May 2012 4:20 pm
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Lane,
I play a SU12 MSA Bb6
The string 12 open note is a C or a "2". Puts a 2 in the bass for some rich chords.
Sometimes I will tune to Bb on string 12 for a big root in the bass.
The "standard" change on that string is 5 half-steps lower (C down to G) It is difficult for ME to use because of keeping the change in tune, and it feels like a rubber band.
I will try .070 or .072 next string change.
Hope this helps.
RR |
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Christopher Woitach
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 24 May 2012 8:00 pm
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I couldn't live without the low C - you get a great 11th chord with root in bass, pedal 5 gives you a dominant 7th, same root, in bass, knee lever that lowers string 7 a whole step gives you a great min9 chord, same root, in bass. These chords are a whole step below "home"...
If you care about the "boo wah" you might be out of luck with the C, but I don't like that sound, myself.
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 24 May 2012 9:02 pm
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Ok. C it is. And with P1, I could get the Boowah, if I needed it. My P1 (to the left of the A pedal) takes 1 to Eb, 3 to G, 10 to A, 11 to E and 12 to A.
I've grown accustomed to using those three low notes to play baritone guitar parts on my C6, and the band I play with wanted me to keep it on the new guitar.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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John Alexander
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Posted 24 May 2012 10:28 pm
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| I have Bb on string 12, with conventional C6 changes, which is how MSA set it up in 1977. However, I'm in the process of moving to a 14 string Excel, and I've been thinking I may use the two extra strings there for additional bass notes, a C on string 13, and an F on string 11. |
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David Wright
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Pilot Point ,Tx USA.
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Posted 25 May 2012 4:18 am
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Lane.
I raise the Bb to C on LKL, along with lowering my F note a 1 tone..
I like the Splat pedal ...but also can get the C on the bottom that way..O and raise it up to C on the floor.. it all in what "you" like at the end of the day.. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 25 May 2012 5:23 am
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I know the Bb would be more familiar. As I'm finally rodding it up, I'm seeing too many ideas competing for the 16 slots (I don't think I'm ready for split verticals or clustered rights).
Not to mention that there seems two different P7 ideas have arisen (aaarrrrggghhh!). I'm thinking of using the standard C6 change, double-footing with the B pedal if the urge for that alternate pedal arises; which I can imagine, as I hit the E9th analog of that combo relatively often.
Now I'm contemplating a front RKL, dropping 8 to Db, eliminating the double-footing. And my aprons only have 16 holes. Does the term "Change Creep", akin to mission creep, exist?
I think I'm a victim. I think I know how Mr. Wilhoite feels
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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