Lowering string 6 on E9 neck

Fred Glave · Post by **Fred Glave** » 16 May 2012 1:50 pm

Do many steel players have this change all by itself on a lever, or is there a common secondary change that either compliments it or works well independently? I want that change on RKL for my new steel and I'll have 5 knees. Verticle lever will raise strings 1 and 7 and RKR will lower strings 2 and 9. E lowers and raises done on LKR and LKL.
Thanks.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 16 May 2012 1:52 pm

I have it on RKR with no other E9 changes, but the lever does activate 2 strings on the C6th neck. Some add the first string raise to G# and the 2nd string raise to E on the same lever.

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 16 May 2012 2:06 pm

I have it with 1 to G. I don't know how many others do, but that was on a Tab and LP instructional thing I got from Buddy Emmons so long ago that LP was the standard format.
I'm so fond of it, it will appear as an inside LKR on my Bb6 Unified.

Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 16 May 2012 2:35 pm

I lower strings 3 and 6 and 10, G#'s to G, on RKL2 on my S12U.
I have two RKL levers.
RKL2 is near the front apron (like under string 3).
RKL1 is closer to me near the rear apron, and it is a little to left of RKL2 so I can fully enguage RKL2 without enguaging RKL1 at all.
I don't use them at the same time.
Untill I get "Forward" moving knee levers, I'll have 2 RKL levers on one knee I guess.
I have this change on Pedal-0 (to the left of the A-Pedal) on some of my Steels.

John Drury · Post by **John Drury** » 16 May 2012 3:17 pm

I have it on my LKR along with a raise on 1 & 2.

Larry Baker · Post by **Larry Baker** » 16 May 2012 3:55 pm

I lower 6 and raise 1 on RKL on my Mullen SD10.
Both changes are full steps.

Keith Currie · Post by **Keith Currie** » 16 May 2012 5:29 pm

I lower string 6 to F# and string 3 to G on my LKV.
with the split on string 6 to get the G there also.
Keith

Georg Sørtun · Post by **Georg Sørtun** » 16 May 2012 5:58 pm

On Dekley and GFI I lower both 3d and 6th string to F# with RKL. With pedal B activated I get tuned split to G for both strings.

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 16 May 2012 6:04 pm

Pete Burak wrote: Untill I get "Forward" moving knee levers, I'll have 2 RKL levers on one knee I guess.
I have this change on Pedal-0 (to the left of the A-Pedal) on some of my Steels.

Someone here on the Forum (John McClung?) has one of them

Jason Lynch · Post by **Jason Lynch** » 16 May 2012 8:06 pm

On My BMI, it is on a Zero pedal, left of the A pedal. (Emmons setup). i'm getting used to it, and it gives you a nice minor in open position, and a diminished if you use it with 5 ans 10 half tone lower.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 16 May 2012 9:03 pm

Right Lane. John has one on his Mullen. I believe he said that Jim Palenscar made it or helped John make it. It is real strange watching John use it (but then again, John has always been a little strange - just kidding John, you know I love ya).

Fred Glave · Post by **Fred Glave** » 17 May 2012 4:23 am

This is all food for thought. I think I like the idea of having the 1st(whole) and 2nd string(half) raise. I've had that before and liked it. I just didn't like feel-half stops and gladly traded it for the half step on 1 and 7 for it. I guess a lever with 3 changes may be a little stiff too. Maybe I'll just raise string 1 a whole with it.

Terry Sneed · Post by **Terry Sneed** » 17 May 2012 7:21 pm

I have the 6 string lower on RKL along with whole tone raise on string 1 and half tone raise on string 2. I also lower string 3 (C6) half tone, on the same lever. it's a little stiff but not bad. You shouldn't have any trouble with 3 changes on RKL.
Terry

Fred Glave · Post by **Fred Glave** » 17 May 2012 7:28 pm

Terry, is that lever moving 3 strings tougher to pull than the other levers? What steel are you playing?

Terry Sneed · Post by **Terry Sneed** » 17 May 2012 7:37 pm

Fred, I play a Sho-Bud Pro II 84 model, and a 93 pre RP Mullen. I have same changes on both steels. Actually I'm pulling 4 strings with RKL String 1,2,6 and 3 on C6. Yea, it's a little stiffer than a 2 and 3 string pull, but it's really not that bad. I think a lot of players pull 4 strings with one lever.
terry

Quentin Hickey · Post by **Quentin Hickey** » 23 May 2012 6:19 pm

My string 6 lower is on my RKL along with raising strings 1 and 2. My split is on string 6 as well with the B pedal depresseds and RKL in. You can get some pretty sounding counterpoint moves with this neat setup, although I have to say Keith I like what you have going on there too!
Q

Lynn Kasdorf · Post by **Lynn Kasdorf** » 24 May 2012 5:23 pm

Like others, I lower 6 and raise 1 & 2 on the same lever- RKL in my case.

It is very handy to lower 6 a whole tone as well as a half. Lower 1/2 and you get a minor from the open position. Lower whole & lowers your Es and you get a very handy 5 chord from open.

I have set mine up so that 6 drops 1/2 step before strings 1&2 start to raise- so I can feel the 1/2 step posn. However, I mostly use the whole tone drop- in both open and pedal down positions.

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Lowering string 6 on E9 neck

Lowering string 6 on E9 neck

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