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light weight pedal steel
Posted: 23 Apr 2012 12:33 pm
by Lyle Clary
What is the name of the new 29 pound pedal steel?
Posted: 23 Apr 2012 12:36 pm
by Roger Crawford
Which builder?
Posted: 23 Apr 2012 12:57 pm
by Lyle Clary
It has 3 letters in the name such as ETW or something like that
Posted: 23 Apr 2012 1:23 pm
by Albert Svenddal
Lyle, it is the ETS pedal steel. Stands for East Texas Steel if I am correct. Awesome guitar and very light. It has great tone and built well. Plus it has a triple raise and lower so it can do any copedent you need.
Albert
Posted: 23 Apr 2012 1:29 pm
by Lyle Clary
Thanks Cotton Top
Posted: 23 Apr 2012 1:31 pm
by Albert Svenddal
Lyle, the web site says it is actually 24 lbs, the guitar itself and in the case web site says 42 lbs. The one I saw had a lighter weight gig bag type case that made it 29 lbs.
Albert
Posted: 23 Apr 2012 10:32 pm
by Bill Lowe
Don't forget Justice guitars. I think the new light guitar comes in at 26 lbs. It looks and sounds great.
http://www.fredjusticemusic.com/id28.html
Posted: 24 Apr 2012 1:33 am
by Fred Justice
Thanks Bill, our Pro Lite model has triple raise, triple lower, split tuning, and comes standard with a BL 705 PU. just to mention a few features.
Here is a couple still shots of the Pro Lite.
See more details here.
http://www.fredjusticemusic.com/id28.html
Thanks for looking.

Posted: 24 Apr 2012 5:58 am
by Jerry Foster
Hi Bill & Fred, your right about The weight & tone of the Justice Pro-lite Steel guitars. I Get complements on my Justice Pro-lite tone & Quality every where I go. it speaks for itself. thanks Fred J. for a Great playing & looking Justice pedal Steel Guitar. your picking Friend. Jerry & Dee F.
Posted: 24 Apr 2012 10:12 am
by Fred Glave
One thing you may possibly consider is that the ETS is a S10, and the Justice steel is a SD10 with the arm rest pad. Some people have a preference. Some of the lightweight steel makers who make the S10 is ETS, Legend, Stage One. Some of those who make the SD10 is Justice, Simmons, Wilcox. Jackson makes both.
Posted: 24 Apr 2012 11:57 am
by Fred Justice
Fred thanks for bringing that to Lyle's attention.
Actually the Pro Lite is not a SD-10, as its not a double frame, at only 9 & 1/2 inches with no step down, verses our SD-10 and D-10 at 11 inches.
I guess you could call it a S-10 with a 3 inch pad.

Posted: 24 Apr 2012 12:44 pm
by Fred Glave
That's good to know Fred. What is the width of a S10? I'm not near my steel right now!
Posted: 24 Apr 2012 12:47 pm
by Jack Stanton
Fred,
What does your D-10 weigh in at?
Posted: 24 Apr 2012 12:57 pm
by David Beckner
Fred Justice wrote:Fred thanks for bringing that to Lyle's attention.
Actually the Pro Lite is not a SD-10, as its not a double frame, at only 9 & 1/2 inches with no step down, verses our SD-10 and D-10 at 11 inches.
I guess you could call it a S-10 with a 3 inch pad.

Whatever Fred calls it .. It is a Very Nice Looking Axe.
Posted: 24 Apr 2012 1:25 pm
by Fred Justice
Jack a 8 X 5 Justice D-10 weights 64 lbs in the case, boxed up to ship.
The case weights about 19 lbs. and the box maybe 2 lbs.
So, free standing I'd say 43 to 44 lbs.
Posted: 24 Apr 2012 2:09 pm
by Francesco Foti
Fred , you should post a video of you playing a pro lite model so that anybody can listen to it
Justice compared to ETS
Posted: 30 Apr 2012 3:51 pm
by Dan Chambers
I played both in Dallas, along with durn near every other S10 & SD10 guitar at the show. After playing an Emmons D10 PP for 30 years I was looking for a high quality Steel Guitar that wasn't so cumbersome to haul around and set up. I played the ETS for maybe 3 minutes and never went back. I don't discount the possibility that the guitar I played was poorly set up but it just didn't speak to me. I ended up buying a Justice Pro Lite, it's calling my name from across the room, I gotta go............
Posted: 30 Apr 2012 5:54 pm
by James Holland
I just weighed my Simmons Genesis SD-10 3x4, 28# solo, 48# in the case. Pics here:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... e92c70dcb7
Doug Ernest Stage One!
Posted: 30 Apr 2012 6:26 pm
by Al Miller
Don't Forget the Stage One Guitars!!! Also Zum and Stage One have teamed up once again and are fixing to release a monster little Guitar. I believe Randy Beavers is already using one on Fly Dates with Leann Womack !! I dont know the details yet but give ole Doug a shout or Bruce over at Zum steel guitars and get some info i bet you will be pleased to see what they have coming. a great price and quality by a reputable company in the same case. dougs email is :
Doug@stageonesteelguitars.com and bruce can be contacted thru his web site
www.zumsteelguitars.com
Maybe we can get Doug to post Some Pics of the Prototype soon !
Posted: 30 Apr 2012 9:14 pm
by Brett Day
Jackson builds a BlackJack Custom model that weighs only twenty-four or twenty-five pounds. After playin' a GFI Ultra D-10 for six years, I decided it was time for a new steel. I thought about one of those big Jackson Madison '63 models, but then thought about the BlackJack and when I went to the Jackson Steel Guitar Company to see what kinds of Jackson Steels they had, the first steel I sat behind was a BlackJack Custom, I just loved everything about it and I'm proud to say it's in my house now, here in my bedroom. It's a very light guitar that can be played anywhere-at the house or onstage somewhere. I gave her a nickname, she is called "Black Diamond".
Brett
Posted: 23 Jun 2012 11:56 am
by Michael J Pfeifer
Is this light guitar available keyless D-10 8/5?