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Old obscure tune ... Jerry Garcia on steel

Posted: 1 Apr 2012 10:56 am
by Bob Carlucci
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-qlvHzz ... re=related


Its actually a cool song, but of course politically and philosophically, it was me 42 years ago when I was young and stupid.. I haven't thought like this since I was a hippie kid without a job..

I remember this one from a long time ago.. It was right in Jerry's wheelhouse, and his ZB sounds great... I'll bet not too many people remember this one.... bob

Posted: 1 Apr 2012 12:08 pm
by Larry Robbins
Ohhh that takes me back! ;-)

Posted: 1 Apr 2012 1:09 pm
by Richard Sinkler
Me too. Damn, I'm old. :lol:

Posted: 1 Apr 2012 1:58 pm
by Rick Abbott
How the heck did I miss this!!??!!

Oh, yeah, I turn 42 in May this year....hahaha

I love it! Thanks for the heads-up on a cool band. NRPS, Dead, The Commander, Flying Burritos etc. are my kinda music.

Posted: 1 Apr 2012 2:06 pm
by Mickey Adams
Holy Cow!...American Pickers must have found this buried in someones garage!!!,,,I think I hear Jerry singing in the background too!!.

Posted: 1 Apr 2012 3:44 pm
by Jerry Overstreet
I remember that. I worked a retail job in a small town in NC, we would go to the Pizza Hut after work, drink beer, play the jukebox and dance. It was about all there was to do there.

They were all 45's and you could play either side. Of course, I didn't know it was Jerry, matter of fact I didn't know he played steel guitar and barely knew what was a steel guitar. Had not thought about that tune in years. Thanks.

Posted: 1 Apr 2012 7:14 pm
by Dave Hopping
Looked up B&S.They're still working.Not a lot,but they do shows with folks like Marshall Tucker and Pure Prairie League.Poco is part of that circle too.

Posted: 2 Apr 2012 6:14 am
by Joachim Kettner
Back then for most of the "hip" guys over here this kind of music was like a red flag, I always told them I was a country fan, then I quit defending it because it was useless.
"the past is a foreign country" comes to mind when hearing this, I had the " Weeds" record with the Red Indian on the cover, I believe Red Rhodes was on this.

Posted: 3 Apr 2012 4:40 am
by Dave Zirbel
Image :D

Posted: 3 Apr 2012 9:18 am
by Dave Grafe
I believe that Jerry had been playing maybe a week or two at most when he cut this track. By the time he recorded "Dire Wolf" (Workingman's Dead) and "Teach Your Children" (CSNY "Deja Vu") he had progressed significantly, but not long after he decided to decline any more recording sessions, instead suggesting the that the interested parties call a "real" steel picker....

Posted: 3 Apr 2012 11:47 am
by Kevin Hatton
ZB Custom through a Twin reverb=Vintage sound.

Posted: 3 Apr 2012 3:23 pm
by Chuck McGill
Wonder where that steel is now?

Posted: 3 Apr 2012 5:25 pm
by Dave Zirbel
It belongs to forum member Pete grant in California, a long time friend of Jerry.

Posted: 4 Apr 2012 8:37 am
by Alan Brookes
I've read some disparaging remarks about Jerry's pedal steel playing from time to time, but he doesn't sound bad to me. The videos that I've seen of him playing are all live, and none of us would want every live performance we've ever done video taped and put on public display. :roll:

Posted: 4 Apr 2012 12:38 pm
by Dave Hopping
All of the JG steel I'd knowingly heard was TYC.I was pleased to learn that the steel on this tune,which I do remember,was also him.OK,it's a little stoned and pitch-y,like his singing,but I hear something good.Makes me wonder what he could have done if he'd laid off the chemicals,trimmed the foliage,and moved to Texas.

Posted: 5 Apr 2012 9:53 am
by Jim Eaton
As I watched/listened to the clip, I was wondering if Jerry was trying NOT to play what he played on TYC or if I was hearing the ideas that later became the TYC steel part. One of kind and I still miss him and the music he gave us.

JE:-)>

Posted: 5 Apr 2012 12:42 pm
by Steve Hinson
That ain't a Twin,is it?No Middle knobs...looks like a Pro...

Posted: 6 Apr 2012 5:40 am
by Bill Terry
Yeah, not enough tone knobs for a Twin, but it's cool. Note the drip edge from '68 or '69, and check out the Tele Marshall combo next door, that's also way cool. Great pic Dave.

Posted: 6 Apr 2012 9:37 pm
by George McCann
I'm old enough to remember watching him with the Original New Riders of the Purple Sage. He'd do a great set with them and then return to the stage with Bob and friends and do an acoustic set. Then the Dead would come on and blow you away for four more hours.
During that era they sure loved to play music forever and ever.
Can't get any headliners to gig for more than 45 minutes anymore...

old obscure tune...Jerry Garcia

Posted: 7 Apr 2012 9:53 am
by Dana Blodgett
I agree with Steve...probably a "Pro Reverb", I had a black faced '66 rated at 40watts,sounded like 100watts! Maybe the best amp I ever had till I blew a speaker.
Dana

Posted: 7 Apr 2012 11:39 am
by Kevin Hatton
How life has changed dramaticly. This is when you had to go down to the record store and buy a piece of plastic in order to listen to music. You couldn't just steal it off a computer. People actually made money in the music business. The song seems so shuffly, hippie naive to me now. It's when people actually had secure employment so that buying a piece of plastic to listen to music was affordable. We still buy plastic (CD's), but we don't have to anymore. Remember record needles? They were very important to us at one point.

Posted: 7 Apr 2012 3:43 pm
by Joey Ace
RIP Jerry. A true musician, regardless of what instrument he was holding at the time.

Image

Posted: 8 Apr 2012 10:07 am
by Alan Brookes
Kevin Hatton wrote:...This is when you had to go down to the record store and buy a piece of plastic in order to listen to music. You couldn't just steal it off a computer...
I don't know how musicians survive any more. :cry:

Posted: 9 Apr 2012 4:11 pm
by Lynn Kasdorf
I totally remember this song! Always loved it. It came out when I was in high school. Primitive, but musical steel playing by Jerry. This early country/folk/rock stuff got me interested in playing steel back then.

Speaking of Brewer & Shipley, have you folks seen their song One Toke Over The Line (a "modern spiritual") as performed on the Lawrence Welk show?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8tdmaEh ... re=related

This cheery couple obviously has no idea what a toke is...

Posted: 13 Apr 2012 5:10 pm
by Jim Curtain
ImageHere is a Picture of Jerry and Doug Sahm in Austin,TX Thanksgiving,1972. There is a file of this concert that came with this pic. I can also post it if it's ok with our moderators.