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Need Help finding stolen steel, etc.

Posted: 16 Feb 2012 8:36 pm
by David Chockley
Guys and girls, I could really use some help locating a stolen Lashley LeGrande, nv112, seat, etc. I am not going to go into a detailed description of gear yet so as not to prompt any unnecessary trouble. I have heard from a friend that gear is possibly on consignment? in the Iowa, possibly DesMoines area. I have pics. serial number of steel, witnesses to prove it's mine etc. Steel and gear have been missing for several months now and this is the first lead I've gotten. I don't want to go to police yet, until I know for sure. I do not hold person who has this on consignment responsible. So if anyone in Iowa area knows of any music stores or pawn shops with a blonde Lashley Legrande, and accompanying gear, I just need info. on where. Thank you so much for any help, I'm in Cedar Rapids, Iowa and not familiar with music stores in the Des Moines area. Thanks again, Dave Chockley

Posted: 20 Feb 2012 3:23 pm
by Lee Barber
To the Top

Des Moines Area Steelers, Help this brother of the slide out!!!!!

Okay, why the mystery?

Posted: 20 Feb 2012 4:36 pm
by Ray Montee
I guess it's my 47 years of performing criminal/civil investigations for some 350 law firms here in the Oregon/Washington area.....

that causes me to ask: "WHY NO POLICE INVOLVEMENT?"
"WHY NO POLICE COMPLAINT?"

Either it's stolen or there's some kind of hanky panky going on here. Surely you know the answer to that?

Are you opposed to making a full disclosure?

Posted: 20 Feb 2012 5:05 pm
by Roy Davis
From Ray Montee:
that causes me to ask: "WHY NO POLICE INVOLVEMENT?"
"WHY NO POLICE COMPLAINT?"........Yep...??

Posted: 20 Feb 2012 7:10 pm
by Lee Barber
If it is anything like the times I delt with the police on stolen equipment, I did better doing my own investigations. The only time I've gotten anything back I found it myself. The police are still supposed to be looking. yea right. They only look if someone got killed. This from the cops themselves.

Posted: 20 Feb 2012 7:56 pm
by Wally Pfeifer
:whoa: :whoa:
Ray,---just exactly are you getting at? ?????? Wally

Posted: 20 Feb 2012 11:31 pm
by David Chockley
Ray, The reason is, that the person
I believe to be involved isn't a bad person, but one who has greater problems than even this theft (alleged). Granted I am very p...ed but if I can locate equip. myself, without police involvement, that;s how I'll proceed. No hanky panky, it's just that I've known very hard times myself in the past. and who knows where I'd be if others hadn't shown me compassion. I'm not asking for a lynching, just info. Dave

Posted: 21 Feb 2012 4:47 am
by Lee Barber
I had an Alcoholic work for me about 3 years. I went to OK for a month on a job to come home to find he pawn $2-300 tools for $10-20 each @ a total of over $2000.00. Trying to help him, as you are in this case, and let him get them out. I ended up filing charges and lost some of my tools. Had I filed earlier, the law could have gotten the tools back, maybe. Of course I had to find out where they were. Bottom line I tried to help him by not going to the cops, wish I would have gone earlier. I HATE A THIEF! Especially one you were trying to help while he is ripping you off.
Good Luck to you sir!

Posted: 21 Feb 2012 10:54 am
by chris ivey
i would think filing a theft report with the police will be necessary to get anything back. i would do it immediately.

Posted: 22 Feb 2012 11:48 am
by Mike Randolph
A so called friend that will take my gear is no friend that I want nothing to do with.

Dave

Posted: 24 Feb 2012 4:49 pm
by Ray Riley
I will go tomorrow and check out some pawn shops for you. Ray

Posted: 25 Feb 2012 5:35 am
by Kevin Mincke
Lee Barber wrote: The police are still supposed to be looking. yea right. They only look if someone got killed. This from the cops themselves.
While this is a "property" crime vs "crime of violence" it is still a crime (and illegal) but you'll have a better chance at getting your equip. back if a police report is made and the serial numbers are entered as stolen. You may be able to have insurance cover it as well with a police report made.
Our pawn shops etc are required by law to participate in ALL pawned items being automatically reported to every law agency in MN.

Hard times=THEFT (not in my book)!

Posted: 25 Feb 2012 8:39 am
by Dave Hopping
The OP made a passing reference to not wanting the law involved because the suspected thief "is not a bad person".The thief has conned you,David;he is counting on you believing the con and not reporting the theft.If all that gear ISN'T on a police list,a pawnshop has NO obligation to return it,your insurance carrier may decline the claim,and a criminal gets away free.

Theft not reported is property not recovered,and karmic retribution is cold comfort.

Posted: 25 Feb 2012 11:26 am
by David Chockley
Report made to P.D. made this morning....they didn't seem too enthused. Thanks, though, for replies and to members who have private messaged with suggestions. Dave

Posted: 26 Feb 2012 5:32 am
by George McLellan
When I reported my MSA Clasic S10 4x5 with serial number: 1C2196, to the PD in the Nashville area and the person I knew had it, I never even got a reply. I'm still looking for it.

Geo

Posted: 26 Feb 2012 8:35 am
by Dave Hopping
One of the things you find out about the PD is that they have no legal obligation to protect an individual or his property,and no legal obligation to recover stolen property.What they do have to do is take the complaint and keep a record of what's been stolen,in case it ever shows up.The utility of a police report is that you generally need one to get an insurance claim going.
I can't help but think about how essential one's instrument is to the serious player-just like a cowboy's horse in the Old West-and how sensibly the ad hoc extragovernmental justice system of the day dealt with horse thieves!

Posted: 4 Mar 2012 7:00 pm
by Jerry Erickson
Hi Dave,
I'm sorry to hear about your gear being stolen. I hope that you get all of it back soon!