Lightweights : opinions

Billy Carr · From: Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)

Anybody got any opinions on these guitars, as to, likes/dislikes? Mullen's new flight model S-10, The ETS, Justice Pro Lite and BMI's , Axius model. The only drawback and it's not really a drawback, is the colors are limited. Each one of these are fine guitars, in my opinion. I'm switching to a lighter guitar in the next week or so. Thanks.

chris ivey · From: california (deceased)

have you played all these guitars?

b0b · From: Cloverdale, CA, USA

I'm playing the ETS now when I teach E9th. At first the leverages weren't quite right, and one of the knee levers was too stiff which made the guitar move a little too much. I rebalanced the pulls and now it works fine. I documented my changes, and I'll do them for free as part of the initial setup for anyone who orders one from the Forum catalog.

The guitar is a joy to play, especially the split tuning on the 6th string lower. Very smooth. The pickup is a little brighter than I'm used to, but a slight adjustment of the amp took care of that. My performing guitar (a Desert Rose) is tuned to D6 instead of E9, which accounts for most of the tone difference I'm hearing.

The case for the ETS is more compact than most, due to a different design. I doubt that any airline would allow it as a carry-on, but the weight is well under the 50 lb. baggage limit.
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Jerry Van Hoose · From: Wears Valley, Tennessee

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Steve Lipsey · From: Portland, Oregon, USA

Don't foret GFI....my S-10 is just a tad over 30lbs...great tone, solid build, nice action, and lubricated for life....

Rick Barnhart · From: Arizona, USA

I just had some throttle time behind the Justice Pro-Lite at the SWSGA show. It's a pro guitar in every respect and it sounds and plays VERY good. I don't know the specs as far as weight etc, but I wouldn't hesitate even for a second about buying one. I'm kinda sure that Fred builds em to suit you, too.
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Brett Day · From: Pickens, SC

I'm lovin' my Jackson BlackJack Custom. It's a light guitar that is perfect to play anywhere. It's a pro guitar too and it's got a raised aluminum fretboard. I think a Jackson Blackjack and Blackjack Custom are great guitars. David, Harry, and Dawn Jackson did such a wonderful job in building this great guitar for me. It's my best guitar with the best sound and tone I've ever heard out of any of my guitars. It weighs 24 lbs, I think .

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Herby Wallace · From: Sevierville, TN, R.I.P.

Mullen without a doubt.

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John Russell · From: Austin, Texas

I had trouble with a GFI guitar being too light. The knee levers rocked the thing a little too much, particularly the RKR. If you adjust the action to be easier, you add to the travel or so it's been my experience. Can't have both.

BTW, what are the guidelines for air travel? Is anything over 50 lbs. not allowed? Can you pay more if you're over that? Seems that would rule out lots of folks, esp. folks with older D-10 guitars in heavy flight cases.

Fred Justice · From: Mesa, Arizona

Billy the Pro Lite is not limited to just a few colors.
Unlike the other lighter weight guitars, we offer every color in our stock excluding the shell's and ripples. A split front also in not offered.

The Pro Lite weights in at 26 lbs. out of the case and 44 lbs in the case.

The Pro Lite has ALL of the top features as "The Judge" Triple Raise, Triple Lower, Split Tuning, and most all of the parts are the same as our top model.

Here's a link to that page on our website. Thanks.
http://www.fredjusticemusic.com/id28.html
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Ted Solesky · From: Mineral Wells, Texas, USA

As for me, I have 2 broken bones in my spine. I've been using a Carter since 1994. Still plays like new and tone-wise check my UTube Cold, Cold Heart or Sleep in your arms tonight.

Jim Cohen · From: Philadelphia, PA

Steve Lipsey · From: Portland, Oregon, USA

FYI, John, I discovered that the return spring on the RKR was tightened, to provide tension for the half stop ....I only needed to go to D, not C#, loosened the spring, and it was easy as pie to operate...

Bob Hoffnar · From: Austin, Tx

The S10 Williams Steel is 25 pounds and it is a full on pro level instrument.
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John Russell · From: Austin, Texas

It could be that the problem was the knee lever in question was the B to Bb lower on my RKR. The GFI didn't have lower return spring adjusters. Like the old Sho~buds, you have to remove the spring and cut off part of it or stretch it out, depending, in order to adjust the lower return tension. Maybe I could have done that to adjust the lever's action.

The GFI would be a good traveling guitar due to it's light weight. I think it weighed around 32 lbs. It was a S-12 universal with 6 and 5. It's case weighed around 20 lbs so that put it over the 50 lb. limit.

b0b · From: Cloverdale, CA, USA

The ETS is about 42 lbs in the case.

chas smith R.I.P. · From: Encino, CA, USA

The Sho-Bud triple, I'm currently rebuilding, weighs 65# and 90# in the case. My Dekley D-12 weighed 110# in the case.

Dan Beller-McKenna · From: Durham, New Hampshire, USA

Bill Moore · From: Manchester, Michigan

I got a new Stage One about a year ago, it's a very nice guitar, and sounds good too. In the case, it weighed 35 lbs. I really missed having a couple of changes on it though. I recently got an Emmons student model, it has four knee levers, plays perfectly and sounds great. 39 lbs in the case. There are a lot of options, but that's my choice for a lightweight guitar.

Kyle Everson · From: Nashville, Tennessee

No experience with lightweight/fly guitars here, but you might consider a lighter case, maybe one made out of fiber board. My SD-10 5x5 weighs 51.5 lbs in its fiber case, and with the legs placed in my suitcase, the steel weighs in at 44.5 lbs. The same guitar in its road case is 77 lbs.

Dale Ware · From: Texas, USA * R.I.P.

ETS all the way. 4-5 set up is 24.5#. No cabinet drop at all. A full line pro-model guitar with guaged rollers a split tuning capabilities on all strings and built by Bud Carter. Dale

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