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When are you an 'official' Steel Guitarist

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 10:11 am
by Kenneth Caine
I have been playing the lap steel for a few years and just stared on the pedal steel. When does one consider oneself a Steel Guitarist? At this point I consider myself a lap steel guitarist and working towards being a pedal steel guitarist.

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 10:15 am
by Fred Thompson
When they post your obituary? :\

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 11:20 am
by Charles Davidson
When you get a call and someone offers to pay you to play steel with them.YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 11:29 am
by Mike Perlowin
When you're on a gig and your 3rd string breaks the middle of a tune. :lol:

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 11:32 am
by James Mayer
I've been paid to play lap steel quite a few times with a band that I was in. But I don't consider myself a "steel guitarist". I consider myself a musician who wrote single-line melodies on other instruments and decided to play them on steel guitar.

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 11:43 am
by Joe Naylor
Several years ago while looking at lots of real steel guitar players business cards I printed mine.

"Steel Guitar Owner" and I stand by that to this day - since I AM AN OWNER

:D :idea:

Joe Naylor
www.steelseat.com

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 11:58 am
by Jack Stoner
How about "none of the above" on your choices.

Each individual will have to decide when they are or when they want to call themselves a steel guitar or pedal steel guitar player.

I've been working on playing pedal steel guitar for 42 years.

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 12:58 pm
by Brett Day
To me, you become a steel guitarist when you first start playin'. I've been a steel guitarist for almost twelve years now. You can be a steel guitarist even if you play steel guitar and you're not a band member-I'm not in a band, but I am a steel guitarist. I play steel guitar shows and conventions with their bands, but I don't have a band I play in, but I'm still a steel guitarist. I'm Steel Guitarist Brett Day.

Brett

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 1:04 pm
by CrowBear Schmitt
i consider myslef official when i get paid to steel on a gig or on someones musik
& get called to do more
otherwise, i'm just workin' on my chops & scufflin' ;-)

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 1:57 pm
by Mike Perlowin
How about when when somebody comes up to you and says "I love the way you play that TABLE TOP THINGY."?

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 3:45 pm
by Dave Grafe
When another steel guitarist introduces you as such :wink:

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 4:05 pm
by Bob Vantine
if it was ...."Never hear Steel Guitar Rag again" ....then I wouldn't have even had a PSG yet ....so that can't be the right answer . :lol:

;-) last summer my wife told Bobbe that I sounded like a lead guitar player trying to play the steel guitar ...... and yes ,we're still married :!:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'll stick with Joe Naylor on this one .

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 5:06 pm
by Tony Prior
When you get called to play again "after" playing a gig, or if someone else calls because you were recommended.

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 5:42 pm
by Roual Ranes
I have to agree with Jack Stoner.

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 6:42 pm
by Richard Sinkler
Honestly, I think as soon as you can do something musical on it. Doesn't have to be Buddy Emmons quality. There is a difference in being a "player" and a "professional player" in my opinion.

Mike P said:
When you're on a gig and your 3rd string breaks the middle of a tune.
I don't think that is what makes us a "player". It is what makes us an "idiot" for choosing such an instrument. :lol:

Mike also said:
How about when when somebody comes up to you and says "I love the way you play that TABLE TOP THINGY."?
I prefer when a pretty girl comes up and says she loves my "organ". :whoa: Been there.

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 10:02 pm
by Chuck Thompson
I figured I was a real steel player the day sound man told me to turn down. ;-)

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 10:10 pm
by Herb Steiner
Dave Grafe wrote:When another steel guitarist introduces you as such :wink:
I agree with Dave. You're a steel player when someone else, who knows what a steel guitar should sound like, says you're a steel player.

Posted: 22 Dec 2011 10:32 pm
by Tony Prior
Ha,:lol: I love the notion that I was a Steel Player when I thought I was..

Well evidently I was not...back around 73 or 74...I got a call shortly after I owned a Steel, some of my friends knew I had one and I could play one or two licks and I knew all 3 chords...So I got a call from a local band , I told them I was a player, they hired me to play a two nighter, all traditional country.
HA !

they fired me after the first night :lol: and rightfully so,they sent me packin' :lol:


It took me easily another year to get back to the place where they called me again and even at that I was struggling to get through the night "properly". i did end up working with those same guys for several years but it was based on "them" thinking I was a player, not me !

I feel the answer is " when you can play a gig with other musicians and they agree that you are a player in some form"..

Jacks comment above is pretty good but I would re-state what he says and say I have been an " active studying player" for several decades. Because actively trying to improve is what musicians should be doing.

I also just got a Tascam 4 track and I recorded a song, I imagine I am now a recording artist as well as a recording engineer ! :eek:

Posted: 23 Dec 2011 5:59 am
by Gerry Brown
I don't know what official means, but I do remember the thrill of reading a review in the local paper of a gig my band played after about 7 months of playing pedal steel in which for the first time I read the words "steel player Gerry Brown". I have the article stuck to my fridge.

When...

Posted: 23 Dec 2011 6:14 am
by Dick Sexton
For myself, I think, not thinking I'm a steel guitar player, pushes me to study and learn. I think I am a student of the steel guitar, and music for that matter. But I don't think I'm a very good one, I practice when I want and how much I want, and if I'd practiced more, I'd be a better student. If I didn't spend so much time on a computer, I'd be a better student of steel. I have known others that said I was a steel player, but few who said I was a good one. I always temper that with where or whom the info is coming from. I also don't think that just because you are paid, makes you a steel player or musician. On occasion I am a paid student, because I am always trying to learn something. No, I'm just an owner and a student of this instrument. I think most of us probably are? My opinion...

Posted: 23 Dec 2011 9:41 am
by Cal Sharp
I've been introduced on stage more than once as "Cal Smith on steel guitar". I guess I'll be a real steel player when they can remember my name.

Posted: 23 Dec 2011 10:11 am
by Richard Keller
Chuck Thompson wrote:I figured I was a real steel player the day sound man told me to turn down. ;-)
That's a good one Chuck. There must be a story behind that somewhere.

Posted: 23 Dec 2011 12:41 pm
by Richard Sinkler
I've been introduced on stage more than once as "Cal Smith on steel guitar". I guess I'll be a real steel player when they can remember my name.
Really! That's disgusting. How hard is it to remember CARL Sharp? :lol: :lol:

Posted: 23 Dec 2011 7:14 pm
by Ronnie Boettcher
When a singer finishes the first chorus, and says in the mic, your name, or "STEEL"!!!

Posted: 26 Dec 2011 3:40 pm
by Bo Legg
From my observation it is quit obvious when a person becomes a real PSG player.
After a few gigs he became an overbearing contemptuous egotistical know-it-all imperious to all around him as he packed up and left in the middle of a set.
I was so impressed I went home put my Tele in the closet and bought a PSG.