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Peterson Stobo Flip Tuner

Posted: 5 Dec 2011 6:37 pm
by Paul Carestia
Would some of you on the forum who own and use the Peterson Strobo Flip tuner please tell me how well it works for pedal steel and how well you like it.

If possible compare it to the Boss TU-12 tuner, which is the tuner I currently use.

I'm finding a high degree of instability in the needle when trying to tune my 6th string on my E9th neck with the Boss TU-12 and am thinking of changing to the Peterson Strobo Flip. This tuner instability is starting to drive me crazy!

But before I do that, I'd like to hear what others on the forum think.

Also, any ideas on why my 6th string is acting up on the Boss. I have more than one TU-12 and they all do the same thing.

I'm coming directly out of my Hilton pedal to the tuner.

Thanks much!

Posted: 5 Dec 2011 7:06 pm
by Paddy Long
Paul it is perfect for PSG -- and it has several pre-set PSG "tempered tunings" in-built. They are considered one of the best tuners available for PSG, and extremely accurate.

Posted: 5 Dec 2011 7:11 pm
by Tim Marcus
I love mine! Once you get used to the sweetened tuning, its hard to go back.

That said, sometimes mine can be very noisy. Its a good idea to keep it out of the signal path. Something to keep in mind.

Even with that bad mojo, I still use it for every gig and session I do

Strbo flip

Posted: 5 Dec 2011 7:57 pm
by Terry Sneed
I think you'll love the strobo flip, I really like mine.
terry

Posted: 5 Dec 2011 8:50 pm
by Richard Sinkler
Yup, what everyone else said. I love mine.

Regarding the Boss, have you tried plugging the guitar straight into the tuner and bypassing the Hilton?

Posted: 5 Dec 2011 9:14 pm
by Joe Hensley
I love it, just make sure you get a newer one or send it in to have the diode modded by Peterson (gets rid of signal distortion).

Peterson Strobe Tuner

Posted: 6 Dec 2011 8:45 am
by Clark Doughty
Since it does it on all your TU-12 Tuners I would check what may be wrong with your 6th string, or something else other than the TU-12. It seems to me the common problem is your string not all the tuners you have. It's probably going to do the same thing on the Peterson..... JMHO

Posted: 6 Dec 2011 10:24 am
by Richard Keller
I can now play in tune since i started using a stroboflip. I don't play better, just in tune. It is a great tuner. I use the sweetened tuning for steel guitar. I like the bracket that comes with it to attach it to the guitar leg. It is easy to use and very sensitive. I would definitely recommend it. I found a new one on ebay for only $142.

Peterson Strobe-0-flip tuner

Posted: 7 Dec 2011 7:51 am
by George Kimery
I also had the Tu-12 and went to the Strobo-flip. Best move I ever made. Get the Strobo flip. Expensive, but worth every penny. (maybe check ebay for a good price?)

Posted: 7 Dec 2011 2:41 pm
by Brett Lanier
Just curious if anyone out there has found a way to avoid the hum that you get with the power supply for the stroboflip. I always go out the second output of my reverb or volume pedal so it's not in the signal path, but still have to plug in and out to avoid the hum. I know that batteries work, but they don't last long and I don't like having to rely on batteries. Can the hum be avoided? Perhaps the new stomp classic runs on 9 volts and is quieter?

Posted: 7 Dec 2011 3:35 pm
by Richard Keller
I get no hum from my stroboflip. I use the power adapter and plug the tuner into the second output from my Hilton volume pedal.

Posted: 11 Dec 2011 10:49 am
by Larry Robbins
Richard Keller wrote:I get no hum from my stroboflip. I use the power adapter and plug the tuner into the second output from my Hilton volume pedal.
I do the same and no problems here. Love the strobo Flip!

Posted: 11 Dec 2011 11:47 am
by Jack Ritter
You can't go wrong with a Stroboflip. You will not regret getting one. Jack

Posted: 11 Dec 2011 8:15 pm
by John McClung
Has anyone carefully listened to see if there is any tone loss or degradation with the Strob-Flip, or for that matter other Peterson tuners? My BOSS Tu-12 and Tu-15 both introduce a bit of signal distortion, so i can't leave the tuners inline.

Tuner Distortion...

Posted: 12 Dec 2011 4:50 am
by Dick Sexton
I found this by doing a search for "Strobo Flip Tuner":

"Sue(from Strobo Flip) also removed a diode (or diodes?) to eliminate distortion. I can now use the Stroboflip without using the special tuner cord I had made with a 1 meg. resistor in one of the jacks on the advise of Randy Beavers. The cord worked fine but now I can use any cord to the tuner with no distortion. Thanks again Sue, I sure hope you watch the Forum from time to time so you can see our messages of thanks to you.

A search for Randy Beaver Mod, should get you the mod information, if you need it.

I have been lead to believe that in the newer units this diode limiting distortion problem has been corrected. Diode Limiting is a commonly used practice in electronics. But it can induce distortion.

I personally used and still use the Beaver Mod for my volume pedals... It works!

Posted: 12 Dec 2011 12:39 pm
by John McClung
Great info, thank you, Dick.

Love it !!

Posted: 12 Dec 2011 7:41 pm
by Bob Sykes
I seldom use my TU-12 since getting the Stroboflip.
Brett Lanier
PostPosted: 7 Dec 11 2:41pm
Just curious if anyone out there has found a way to avoid the hum that you get with the power supply for the stroboflip. I always go out the second output of my reverb or volume pedal so it's not in the signal path, but still have to plug in and out to avoid the hum. I know that batteries work, but they don't last long and I don't like having to rely on batteries. Can the hum be avoided? Perhaps the new stomp classic runs on 9 volts and is quieter?
Brett see:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=194894

Posted: 12 Dec 2011 8:39 pm
by Brett Lanier
Thanks Bob, I'll try the ground lift. Although, since Ive gotten a push pull I barely have to tune at all. It's kinda nice.

more ? on Peterson Stoboflip tuners

Posted: 17 Dec 2011 9:37 am
by Pete Myers
for you guys out there using Stroboflips, I am still getting used to mine after using a T-12....why the different Sweetners for E-9? which is better? Are any of you programming in your own settings?

I'll get used to this Peterson, but think I have become spoiled with the needle tuner....ya'lls thoughts...?

Which one and do you program?

Posted: 17 Dec 2011 10:23 am
by Dick Sexton
I'm currently using the sweetened OE9, I've used both and have programmed my own. I seem to keep coming back to the OE9. For my steel and my ear, it works fine. Get lots of smiles from my two or three loyal fans. Haha!

Of course there might some different opinions... Remember no two steels are exactly alike, and we each hear a little differently, so find one that is pleasing to you and use it, or program.

Posted: 17 Dec 2011 10:59 am
by Richard Sinkler
Has anyone carefully listened to see if there is any tone loss or degradation with the Strob-Flip, or for that matter other Peterson tuners? My BOSS Tu-12 and Tu-15 both introduce a bit of signal distortion, so i can't leave the tuners inline.
I get the distortion also if I keep Strobo-Flip plugged into the 2nd output of my Hilton pedal. Supposedly, my Strobo-flip was made after that diode change, but I seem to suspect not. I can't take the time to send it to Sue, so I just unplug it. I rarely have to tune my guitar after the first tune-up at the beginning of the night.

Posted: 17 Dec 2011 11:17 am
by Pete Myers
Thanks Dick, I'll start with OE9... did you find it difficult to program the HTZ for each pull....? Seems mind-boggling :?

Programming Instructions...

Posted: 17 Dec 2011 12:09 pm
by Dick Sexton
Pete, look in the Strobo Flip Info folder near the bottom of the page here: https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=594320d13092d8fb
I wrote these for a friend this summer... Email me if you have any questions or have trouble down loading the instructions.

Best of luck...