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Topic: Heres the new COPE i promised. |
Jeff Metz Jr.
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York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 23 Nov 2011 7:02 am |
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A personal friend of mine , who is a complete music theory nut/genious has been working on a pedal steel copedent for the past year or so(correction ITS 3 Years in the making). I am told by my teacher that it is to be used on a s12 with 5+5 setup. Im not sure of details but I will post a chart as soon as I recieve one. Supposedly this is a completly new system that nobody is using. Im very interested to see. What are your thoughts? Can it be a new cope is available?
   jeff
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Last edited by Jeff Metz Jr. on 27 Nov 2011 2:05 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 23 Nov 2011 9:32 am
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| we can't criticize it til we see it! |
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Don Drummer
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 23 Nov 2011 1:06 pm
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| The "Avenger" tuning? |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 23 Nov 2011 1:32 pm
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Jeff you're in for a rough ride here.
As Bill Hankey's topic "Have We Outgrown The E9th Chromatic Tuning?" went is a good hint of your fate. |
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Jeff Metz Jr.
From:
York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 23 Nov 2011 2:34 pm
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No bob he's not a steel player. He plays double bass and fender rhoads. Im not intending on even messing with this copedent. I haven't even dabbled with whats to learn on the e9th. I just figured you veterans would get a kick out of something like this, and being the knowledgable guy my friend is, it should be a good thing. sorry for the run on.
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David Wright
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Pilot Point ,Tx USA.
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Posted 24 Nov 2011 6:05 am
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| Sounds interesting, him not being a player will be interesting in his though process on how to play Jazz..on a pedal steel...l@@king forward to seeing it... |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Jeff Metz Jr.
From:
York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2011 1:55 pm
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I finally have a copy of this cope.
Let me know what you think. Its a work 3 years in the making.
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David Wright
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Pilot Point ,Tx USA.
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Posted 27 Nov 2011 2:01 pm
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| I would rather hear it in use..., just remember Maurice plays more cords on a 12 string non pedal than i can find with 9 & 6...)) |
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Jeff Metz Jr.
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York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2011 2:04 pm
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I agree! Im not so good with theory as it is. I didn't design this so I cannot explain all of the little advantages it provides. I was told that this copedent is a true 6/9, and gives you a ton of chords. It splits the grips up from what I can see.
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Jeff Metz Jr.
From:
York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2011 2:56 pm
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I just noticed that I forgot to take away the High B string that is listed (without a string) Pay no attention to that B. Also the Lowest string (F) may be changes to an Eb. Not sure yet.
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2011 6:46 pm maybe this will look better
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RKR lowers E to D. (hard to read)
It's an E6/9. I was playing a C6/9 for a few years. It looks like it would work. Is he going to try it?
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Jeff Metz Jr.
From:
York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2011 7:42 am
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not exactly sure. I think as soon as he gets a good deal on a steel. He doesn't own one yet.
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2011 8:20 am
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| What kind of music does he play? |
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Bill Hatcher
From:
Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2011 8:24 am
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tell him to get him a 10 or 12 string lap steel and tune it to the original 6 string Leavitt tuning and then add some upper strings to it, whatever he likes. you can play just as many jazz chords on it, it weighs very little compared to a pedal guitar, cost a whole lot less and you might get just as many chicks with it. gal on one arm, lap steel under the other....
here is a jazz standard i recorded on a non pedal 14 string lap guitar, but i only used maybe 10 or 11 of them 
http://soundcloud.com/bill-hatcher/nuages-lap-steel |
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Bob Hoffnar
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Austin, Tx
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Posted 28 Nov 2011 8:53 am
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That set up looks very cool. Looks to be made for quartal harmony. I would say go for it. The ability to pivot off of 4ths rather than the more standard tri tone approach might very productive.
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Ryan Barwin
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 28 Nov 2011 2:33 pm
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Here:
Looks very playable...some combination of Jernigan's "Avenger" tuning and Julian Tharpe's E6/9.
Bill, great playing (as usual). What's your 14-string tuning?
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Sonny Jenkins
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Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx
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Posted 28 Nov 2011 4:45 pm
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| How does this relate to Zane Beck (or maybe Zane King) E6/9 tuning? |
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Zane King
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 3 Dec 2011 8:22 am
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It is interesting that strings 1 through 10 match my open tuning. I have demonstrated on many occasions the use of my first 4 strings. There are clearly advantages to the combination from top - G#, F#, E, C#. Aside from that there are very few similarities. My current 10 string combination is 5/5. I am playing that on my "Red" Jackson Blackjack where I play Amazing Grace. I plan to demonstrate more on that setup because I believe it is a very useful tuning that opens up some musical space that is not necessarily upon the traditional E9 standard. Of course, that's one man's opinion along with a few others who have been giving it a try. 
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Richard Damron
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Gallatin, Tennessee, USA (deceased)
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Posted 3 Dec 2011 8:33 am
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Bill Hatcher -
Please post your copedant. Some of the sounds that you get on your demo are just wonderful. Very nice playing, by the way. Enjoyed it very much.
Richard |
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Jeff Metz Jr.
From:
York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2011 11:08 am
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BOb Please close. I guess my buddy is upset about me leaking his cope. I guess I misunderstood him. ooops. Sorry andrew.
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2011 12:53 pm
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Jeff....tell your friend that it's ok. Closely guarding your exclusive set-up is soooo 70's.  |
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