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Topic: Fender SF Bassman 100 for steel? |
Benjamin Wolfram
From: Victoria, Australia
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Posted 2 Nov 2011 11:31 am
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I did a quick search and found a couple of things but thought I'd ask fresh anyway. I've been in the market for a Dual Showman or something similar for my main gigging steel amp (I want to get a valve head so I can switch it with my valve guitar head and use one cabinet at a gig between the two) but have found them hard to come by here in Australia and I've come across a real beauty of a SF Bassman 100 head and figured this must have enough clean power for gigging steel guitar and probably sounds great...but without reverb which isn't that much of a problem.
Are these amps really good for steel also or should I hold out for a Dual Showman / Twin head? Like I said the "no reverb" thing isn't really an issue if the amp is worth it. |
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Dave Hopping
From: Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 2 Nov 2011 12:07 pm
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100 watts should do you fine.No reverb? No problem.That's what reverb/delay pedals are for.And since it's a 2-channel amp,it might be fun,while you're getting it checked out,to see what's what about getting the other channel revoiced to match your guitar head...I heard somewhere that Fender amp heads get a little dyspeptic if they're run with no speaker load,which is what happens(I think)when you A/B between 2 heads and one cab.  |
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 2 Nov 2011 12:07 pm
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Reviewing the schematic, the normal channel is very similar to the other 4X6L6 Fender amps, being the Twin / Dual Showman Chassis. I suspect the Bassman 100 would be a fine Steel amp, just add a Reverb pedal and be done with it. Fender did not re-invent amps, they just made a few different variations of the same theme. The power supply is a bit different than the Twins/Showmans but none the less , I wouldn't pass on a good deal if I ran across it.
t _________________ Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 2 Nov 2011 12:21 pm
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My only reservation would be tone: the EQ points wouldn't be the same. OTOH, I got decent tone outta my dad's Ampeg B-15 as I was learning. Play it first. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Benjamin Wolfram
From: Victoria, Australia
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Posted 2 Nov 2011 12:36 pm
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Dave Hopping wrote: |
100 watts should do you fine.No reverb? No problem.That's what reverb/delay pedals are for.And since it's a 2-channel amp,it might be fun,while you're getting it checked out,to see what's what about getting the other channel revoiced to match your guitar head...I heard somewhere that Fender amp heads get a little dyspeptic if they're run with no speaker load,which is what happens(I think)when you A/B between 2 heads and one cab.  |
Yep I definitely wouldn't want to run a valve head of any kind without a dummy speaker load to keep it safe while the other amp was being played. I'll be looking into amp switchers that provide a dummy load to the other amp, I'm sure they exist although I haven't looked into them yet. |
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David Mason
From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2011 2:48 pm
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Or reach over and flip the standby switch.... not every problem needs a product. Your biggest issue may be speakers. That bass head through JBL's or Black Widows should be fine, anything less (blatty "rock 'n' roll" speakers) and there may be odd gaps and peaks in the spectrum. And "bass" speakers may have specific limits in their excursion built it, effectively compressing the stuffing out of a wide signal. |
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Benjamin Wolfram
From: Victoria, Australia
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Posted 2 Nov 2011 3:04 pm
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I honestly won't be turning it up THAT loud at any of my gigs right now but so long as it's a great steel amp with potential if paired up with a good 15" or two good 12" speakers further on down the road that's what I'm looking for. I will be trying to run it through guitar speakers for the time being but I'm going to try and get a 212 with one G12H30 (a good speaker for dirty but also good for cleans) and one Alnico Gold which is a 50 watt speaker, neither of which are really your typical "early breakup" types. I'm not sure how that will go but hopefully it will be okay for now. |
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Dave Hopping
From: Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 2 Nov 2011 7:50 pm
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Benjamin,if it all comes together you will of course need to tell us all about how it went-preferably with pics  |
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 3 Nov 2011 5:04 am
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Lets not forget that these Bassman 100's are dual channel, one voiced for Bass and one NOT ! Just like the 50 watt versions.
nice amps
t _________________ Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website |
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Olli Haavisto
From: Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 3 Nov 2011 9:19 am
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What Tony said. You may find that you don`t need two amp heads. Use the other channel for guitar with a good OD pedal and you`re set. _________________ Olli Haavisto
Finland |
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