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Topic: tunable half stops on a carter |
baxter vaughan
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Lubbock, Texas 79424
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 1:11 pm |
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i am playing a really nice carter, but i don't have any of the tunable 1/2 stops. could someone provide some under carriage pics of how they are set up? i would like to fine tune 5,6 &10 on the E9th.
thanks!
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 2:13 pm
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Are you talking about half stops (like the 2nd string D# ->D->C#) or tunable splits? The Carter should have a half finger in the 11th position of the endplate cutout where the nylon nuts are. There is only 2 holes for the half stops, so you could only do 2 strings with half stops without having to use another string to activate when you are at the half stop in the string.
For tunable splits (allowing you to use 2 pedals to gether to get a 3rd note. ex: string 6 raise G# to A and at the same time hit the lever that lowers 6 to F#. You will end up with a note somewhere close to a G, but not likely to be in tune), you need to add another rod for each split. This extra rod is used to tune the lower note. Search for split tuning and you should come up with some info.
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baxter vaughan
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Lubbock, Texas 79424
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 2:38 pm
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| thank you richard. i'm talking about the 5th string with knee lever and 1st pedal engaged. same with 10th and 6th string. do you add a rod on the same cross shaft? i was wanting to see how they are set up exactly. |
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Mark van Allen
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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 1 Oct 2011 1:48 am
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That is a split tuner you are talking about. I don't have a split on my 5th string, but do on the 6th. The extra rod is on the same bell crank as the lower on the 6th string lower knee lever. I have it in the bellcrank hole closest to the guitar and the top raise hole in the changer (I think... My guitar is at my gig, but I can check for sure tomorrow). The extra rod just barely raises the string. Just enough to bring the F# note up in tune. I imagine it would be the same for the 5th string.
You mentioned wanting to do it on 5, 6, and 10 (the "Franklin Pedal, I presume). I don't know if you would be able to do all 3 strings at once, but who knows.
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baxter vaughan
From:
Lubbock, Texas 79424
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Posted 2 Oct 2011 4:43 am
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| richard, mark...thanks very much! |
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Roger Kelly
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Bristol,Tennessee
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 2 Oct 2011 6:59 am
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There is an order to tuning splits and I think... it goes like open string first, then the tuned split last the pedal.
so for a 6th string G#, G, F#
Tune open
then B pedal and Lever
B pedal last
This always seemed backwards and confusing to me. 
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Ken Metcalf
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San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 2 Oct 2011 7:01 am
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I have it on my Carter and it just looks like a reg rod set up to me.
Let me know if you can't get pics..
I will be in Branson all week and get back this weekend.
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John Roche
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England
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Posted 2 Oct 2011 11:02 am
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| Thanks Ken , you just saved me a lot of problems, my 6th string was all over the place trying to keep it in tune , it would go sharp then flat when i pressed or released the B pedal , so i tried your way of tuning the split and the pedal and so far no problems,, thanks |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 2 Oct 2011 11:14 am
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The way I tune my split on string 6 is (I read this method here on the forum somewhere:
- Tune G# open at keyhead
- Tune A note with the raise nylon nut.
- With A & B pedals down, tune the split (G) with the nylon nut that affects the lower (G# to F#) giving you an in tune G note.
- release the pedals and now tune the F# note with the added raise rod to bring the F# in tune. I also have my E to D# lever engaged so the when I tune the F#, it makes the chord in tune. If I don't, the chord sounds a little off.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 2 Oct 2011 11:21 am
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Found this in an old thread
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Bill Dobkins
From:
Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 2 Oct 2011 12:05 pm
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Heres my half stop idea.
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