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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 26 Mar 2012 6:06 pm    
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http://magicjukebox.blogspot.com/2012/03/hame-pila-la.html

Very cool groove and unusual Hawaiian-Swing solo fills. Who?
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 26 Mar 2012 6:09 pm    
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That's the great Bobby Nichols on steel. He was one of my favorites. Nice bass playing, too. I swear, Rock and Roll came out of Hawaiian music. Listen to Elvis' vocal delivery--totally Hawaiian influenced. I've never heard anyone say it, though.
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Rick Aiello


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Post  Posted 26 Mar 2012 6:13 pm    
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I think Bobby Nichols and Andy Iona were the best ever ...
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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 27 Mar 2012 1:18 pm    
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Thank steel brain trust!
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Wayne D. Clark

 

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Montello Wisconsin, USA
Post  Posted 27 Mar 2012 2:46 pm    
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THANKS ANDY, I THOUGHT I WAS LISTENING TO HAWAII CALLS FROM BEFORE W.W. II.
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Wayne D. Clark

 

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Montello Wisconsin, USA
Post  Posted 27 Mar 2012 3:00 pm    
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Any Idea what they were useing back then for tuning on a six string lap steel. I was only 4 in 1937 and I have probably forgot if I ever knew and that is not likely?
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Jack Aldrich

 

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Post  Posted 27 Mar 2012 8:20 pm    
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Wayne D. Clark wrote:
Any Idea what they were useing back then for tuning on a six string lap steel. I was only 4 in 1937 and I have probably forgot if I ever knew and that is not likely?
As far as I know, from asking and nosing around is that the original tuning for the steel was Taro Patch: D G D G B D, like the slack key guys used. In LA in the 30's, the 6th tuning arose. Sol Ho'opi'i ued what he called a C#minor tuning - an E6, actually. The 6th tuning spread through Hawaiian and countrty pretty quickly: E6, G6, C6, D6, etc.
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Wayne D. Clark

 

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Montello Wisconsin, USA
Post  Posted 28 Mar 2012 7:20 am    
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Thank you John. Presently I have my 8 string tuned top to bottom [E B G# E C# B G# E] I just call it a modified E7th. and since I do not read music and learned by reading TAB. or by Ear. I find my self rather restricted. In my younger years I used E7th. I liked that but changing the 5th string "D" TO "C#" I get a minor, but all I know is that the string is tuned to a "C#" Well I've blabbed long enough. Have a Good day.
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 28 Mar 2012 8:11 am    
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Bobby Nichols used C#min7 tuning on this.
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Jack Aldrich

 

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Post  Posted 28 Mar 2012 9:26 am    
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Mike Neer wrote:
Bobby Nichols used C#min7 tuning on this.

As I am fond of saying, C#min7 is E6, which Don Helms, among others, used. Sol Ho'opi'i called it C#min7, too. IMHO, 6thd tunings are very useful for non-pedal steels and for the lower neck of a D10 pedal steel, too.
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Michael Lee Allen

 

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Post  Posted 28 Mar 2012 9:33 am    
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 28 Mar 2012 9:39 am    
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John Aldrich wrote:
Mike Neer wrote:
Bobby Nichols used C#min7 tuning on this.

As I am fond of saying, C#min7 is E6, which Don Helms, among others, used. Sol Ho'opi'i called it C#min7, too. IMHO, 6thd tunings are very useful for non-pedal steels and for the lower neck of a D10 pedal steel, too.


John, it's a different tuning. It is essentially an E tuning with the second string raised to C#.

Don Helms used an E6 that had the C# and B strings next to one another.
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Dennis Coelho

 

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Post  Posted 31 Mar 2012 10:19 am     Lani McIntire's orchestra 1937 - steeler?
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When I took a few Hawaiian lessons in Calif. in 1950 they taught us to use (L-H) E A E A C# E.
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