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Topic: Looking forThe Stones with Ron Wood on steel. |
Michael J Pfeifer
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New York NY 10036
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Posted 24 Jan 2011 12:39 pm |
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| Could someone send me the youtube link with Ron playing so poorly? I can't seem to find it under Rolling Stones. |
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Andy Sandoval
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Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 24 Jan 2011 1:55 pm
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| Here's another Click Here |
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Michael J Pfeifer
From:
New York NY 10036
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Posted 24 Jan 2011 2:26 pm
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Thanks Andy & Mike,
For as bad as these videos are,I think there is another that someone from the forum labeled "the worst steel guitar ever!" Also, the Stones doing "Apartment #9" with Ron on steel. I can't find it. Thanks again,these videos are funny! |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 24 Jan 2011 3:29 pm
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| Michael J Pfeifer wrote: |
Thanks Andy & Mike,
For as bad as these videos are,I think there is another that someone from the forum labeled "the worst steel guitar ever!" Also, the Stones doing "Apartment #9" with Ron on steel. I can't find it. Thanks again,these videos are funny! |
There's one worse than this  Yikes   
Bob Knight posted one a couple years back but it was the same one in MP's reply, I think. If you search on it, you'll find a 7 or 8 page thread...some other examples...also opposing views on RW's steel guitar prowess. |
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Michael J Pfeifer
From:
New York NY 10036
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Posted 24 Jan 2011 3:41 pm
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Thanks Jerry,
Now that I think about it,"The Girl with the Far Away Eyes" is probably the video labeled the worse steel guitar ever. If it can be found, Apartment #9 is ever worse. I did find one version by Keith Richards,but it isn't the one with Ron playing so poorly. If anyone finds it,please let me know. Page 7 or 8 where? youtube? |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 24 Jan 2011 3:49 pm
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| This is the forum thread I was thinking of Michael, but I see the link has been taken down. That first one was the one in the example Mike posted and the one I was tossing attempted humorous remarks toward. There are others there though. http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=148911 |
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Jamie Lennon
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 25 Jan 2011 5:51 am
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 25 Jan 2011 7:35 am
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Wouldn't it be cool if Ron Wood could really play the steel well, and he played it on a wide variety of songs.
Or if the Stones added a full time rock steel player, (Preferably me ) the way the Pretenders did?
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Michael J Pfeifer
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New York NY 10036
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Posted 25 Jan 2011 8:08 am
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| Thanks Jerry. That is the thread,but unfortunately the videos have been removed. I wonder if Ron had something to do with their removal. |
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Michael J Pfeifer
From:
New York NY 10036
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Posted 25 Jan 2011 8:13 am
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Mike,
There might be a way to contact the Stones on the www. I asked Paul McCartney and Judy Collins if they wanted to jam, no reply. We had a saying in sales,"If you don't ask,the answer is always no." Send the Stones a sample of your playing. |
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Joachim Kettner
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Germany
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Posted 25 Jan 2011 9:26 am
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I guess this is the consequence of to little practice and nervousnous, and Keith trying to help with throwing in licks didn't work.
I think both of them are good in their ways. I liked Ron on the Rod Stewart/ Faces records, and Keith is better when he plays his signature lines.
Btw does anyone know on which Mick Jagger song J.D. Manness plays steel? |
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Cliff Kane
From:
the late great golden state
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Posted 25 Jan 2011 11:34 am
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Doesn't Al Perkins play on some tunes on "Exile on Main Street"?
I wouldn't completely bash RW, even though he does come off embarassingly bad on those clips, but there is some nice lap and slide work on his early solo records. I think he plays pedal steel on a track on Jerry Lee Lewis's "Last Man Standing" record, as well as the studio version of "Girl with Far Away Eyes". Although his playing on those recordings is not on par with most recorded steel, it is certainly better than what is on those clips. |
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Tim Victor
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North Carolina, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2011 11:52 am
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I give Ron credit for having a lot to do with the sound of the (non-Small) Faces, and also for Rod's early rockin' hits like "Maggie May" and "You Wear it Well" and the covers of "I'm Losing You" and "Twisting the Night Away." They influenced just about everyone playing rock at the time, including the Stones, and lots of bands that came later. The Replacements for one often pointed to them.
Check out their version of "Maybe I'm Amazed":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLhoLkTyNkM
I hear a lot of that in McCartney's live version of the song on Wings Over America, which is way looser than the studio original.
I just checked the Wikipedia entry for the album Every Picture Tells a Story and see that Ron got a pedal steel credit there. I don't have a copy of that and can't place which track that would be. Anyone know? |
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Ron Anderson
From:
Keystone Colorado, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2011 11:52 am
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Well, I wish I could play as bad as that.
The intonation is off. right?
And he doesn't resolve some passages?
Hangs around the 1 chord unimaginatively?
Doesn't get out of Mick way?
I'm a total beginner. How many did I get right? |
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Tim Victor
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2011 12:02 pm
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| Cliff Kane wrote: |
| Doesn't Al Perkins play on some tunes on "Exile on Main Street"? |
Cliff, my CD copy is stored away and I can't find the track-by-track credits online, but my recollection is that pedal steel on "Torn and Frayed" is the only time he's listed. Recording that album was barely controlled choas and there are known errors and omissions, and that's going by my memory, so he might have done more. But if that was all, that's enough. It's a really great pedal steel part. |
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Brendan Mitchell
From:
Melbourne Australia
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Posted 25 Jan 2011 2:13 pm
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RE every picture tells a story
I think there was pedal steel on Mandolin Wind |
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Cal Sharp
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the farm in Kornfield Kounty, TN
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Posted 25 Jan 2011 2:38 pm
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Several years ago I saw Woodie on TV (local station, maybe) talking about coming to Nashville to get a steel guitar and this amazing player we had here named Buddy Emmons. Apparently he didn't take any lessons while he was in town. 
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Tim Victor
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2011 2:58 pm
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RE every picture tells a story
I think there was pedal steel on Mandolin Wind |
Just listened to it online and right you are. Thanks! |
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 25 Jan 2011 6:14 pm
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I'm a huge Stones fan, but there are some instruments that you just can't "swagger" your way through.
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Ian Miller
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2011 8:49 pm
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| For starters, he should drop the bottleneck mentality that's wreaking havoc on his vibrato! |
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Josh Cho
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New York, NY (orig. Honolulu, HI)
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Posted 26 Jan 2011 4:53 am love It
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I love how Keith Richards is telling someone to shut up then laughing into the microphone during his background vocal in "Girl With Faraway Eyes" at 1:55 you can tell Mick is totally pissed off by this LOVE IT!
These videos are bad on many many levels IMHO, and I can't really tell if the steel playing is the cause or just brings down the quality that much further
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 26 Jan 2011 9:52 am
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Cut him some slack. The Stones have never been known as virtuoso musicians but that hasn't stopped them from becoming the world's biggest band. He's doing this for fun. I don't think he's angling for anyone's gig.
We all know there are superior players all over this forum, but I'm sure Woody could teach a few of us some things. Let's see: bass and guitar for Faces, The Jeff Beck Group, Rod Stewart, The Rolling Stones....
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Norbert Dengler
From:
germany
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Posted 26 Jan 2011 12:15 pm that`s the way life goes...
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Craig Stock
From:
Westfield, NJ USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2011 5:52 pm
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Woody was mostly a slide player, I liked his solo CD 'Slide on This' from about 10-15 years ago. Never thought he was a good replacement for Mick Taylor though, Mick was the best, '69-'72 were the Stones best years!
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