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do any pro steelers play without finger picks?
Posted: 15 Jan 2011 11:00 am
by Aaron Shively
im learning to play, and im much more comfortable picking and damping and feeling the strings with my bare fingers. i know of several guitarists that use only fingers, like jeff beck, mark knopfler and derek trucks. do some steel players use bare fingers, or are finger picks a universal component to the art of pedal steel?
Posted: 15 Jan 2011 11:11 am
by Marco Schouten
Bobbe Seymoure plays without fingerpicks.
Posted: 15 Jan 2011 11:36 am
by Dan Tyack
I don't know any that never use finger picks, but I believe that both Paul Franklin and Buddy Emmons have recorded songs without picks. And neither of those guys are too bad...
I go pickless on occasion.
Posted: 15 Jan 2011 12:02 pm
by Ron Davis
If you start learning & practicing with your picks, you'll be glad you did.
I HATED them. Felt SO awkward!
(I don't even like to use a pick with guitar, except on occasion.)
But, if you hang in there with the picks, you'll really like what you can get out of the psg with them.
Really...
Posted: 15 Jan 2011 12:21 pm
by David Beckner
Bobbe plays with out picks..I also think I saw a Hal Rugg video in which he wasnt wearing them.
I am a beginner/intermediate player , I play with and without..If I am playing a very light style - something with feeling , like a slow gospel song I will play without picks..Just my opinion but I think you get a softer sound.
Posted: 15 Jan 2011 12:33 pm
by Ron Anderson
Please don't start threads like this!
I'm a rank beginner and I'm barely getting used to picks. Preferring, if the world were different, no picks at all.
(fingers in ears) La-La-La-La-La-La-La-La
Posted: 15 Jan 2011 2:19 pm
by Larry Baker
When I started playing Steel about 3 years ago, I started playing without picks, (not even a thumb pick). I was very comfortable with it until MY WIFE said, if your gonna play that thing, play it right and put your picks on. Of course, I did, and very glad, now, I never play without the picks. Hang in there, and keep those picks on. Larry Baker
Posted: 15 Jan 2011 2:20 pm
by Larry Baker
BY THE WAY, I AM NOT A PRO PLAYER. Larry
Without Picks
Posted: 15 Jan 2011 9:09 pm
by Dave A. Burley
I recall Frank Rogers, Jr. in the early days playing without picks and barefoot. He done pretty darn good. I put him on a stage in Muskegon, Michigan with Buddy Emmons and Jimmy Bryant and I believe that was his first time playing steel in front of a crowd. I believe that he had no picks that day and no shoes. He's come a long way and is playing with picks, and shoes, but I would think that Frank can still handle the steel quite well without the picks and in his bare feet.
Dave A. Burley
Posted: 15 Jan 2011 9:20 pm
by David Beckner
Ron Anderson wrote:Please don't start threads like this!
I'm a rank beginner and I'm barely getting used to picks. Preferring, if the world were different, no picks at all.
(fingers in ears) La-La-La-La-La-La-La-La
I think the thread is a good one
sure beats another tuning thread
Posted: 15 Jan 2011 9:23 pm
by B. Greg Jones
Boogie Sherrard plays with a flat pick and no fingerpicks. He does a mighty fine job of it too!!!
Greg
Posted: 15 Jan 2011 11:19 pm
by Ron Davis
Ron Anderson wrote:Please don't start threads like this!
I'm a rank beginner and I'm barely getting used to picks. Preferring, if the world were different, no picks at all.
(fingers in ears) La-La-La-La-La-La-La-La
LOL!!!
Posted: 16 Jan 2011 1:31 am
by Scott Shipley
I use a flatpick and my fingertips most of the time, occasionally I do use picks though. Jimmy Clark also plays with a flatpick.
Posted: 16 Jan 2011 2:42 am
by CrowBear Schmitt
the question you ask Aaron is one of the most frequent that appear on the Fo'
i'm not a pro but considering the help & advice i've gotten over the years from some of them, figure i might as well pass it on :
finger picks offer clarity, precision, & speed
(w: time & practice you'll get used to having them on)
not using them will offer a warmer sound
i'd suggest playing with & without, that way you'll have more options
thumbpick imo is mandatory
moral :
better to know how to pick w: picks than w: bare fingers
rather than know how to pick w: bare fingers & not w: picks
Posted: 16 Jan 2011 4:12 am
by Joachim Kettner
I am no proffesional either.
I know this is very subjective, but when I put the three picks on, it means "boy you are going to to play the steel now!".
Posted: 16 Jan 2011 5:25 am
by Adam Stein
I resisted it for a while too but you'll get a clearer note with picks. I'm working my way through Jeff Newman's "Right Hand Alpha" video and it's really helping me adjust.
Posted: 17 Jan 2011 11:50 am
by Ron Anderson
You know what else is tough for a beginner and finger picks? Trying to mouse around Mickey Adams you tube video index with them on.
I feel like Edward Scissor Hands!
Posted: 17 Jan 2011 1:01 pm
by chris ivey
the bottom line to me is: use finger picks... unless you're so special and talented that your performance without them is a pure outstanding art form.
Posted: 19 Jan 2011 11:06 pm
by John Robel
I dont think Toy Caldwell wore picks, but hell Ive been wrong before. John
Posted: 21 Jan 2011 9:27 am
by Jay Jessup
Adding a slight twist to the direction of this thread, if anyone is venturing down the road of learning pic-blocking as a muting technique, it's a heck of a lot easier to get the feel for it without wearing finger picks.
Posted: 21 Jan 2011 10:16 pm
by Dave Grafe
Comfort and personal preference aside, in my experience great tone comes from putting some serious energy into the strings; playing without picks severely limits the amount of power you can apply when it's time to emphasize a point. This being said, if all you are doing is mellow jello soft and easy then go ahead on, the gentle touch is certainly a valid one as well...
Posted: 21 Jan 2011 10:55 pm
by Papa Joe Pollick
If Bobbe don't stay away from machinery he just might not have fingers to put picks on.
And that would be a big loss for his fans.Of which I'm one.
Posted: 23 Jan 2011 12:15 pm
by Bobbe Seymour
You guys are just to hilarious!
Los Bobbster!
Posted: 23 Jan 2011 8:41 pm
by Elton Smith
I'm no pro but it takes a lot of time to get your picks just right.They have to be comfortable to stay on ur figers for hours at a time.I keep some needle nose pliers with me to adjust them.It may take a week or so to get them just right.If they fit well you will never know you have them on.What will really piss you of is when some one wants to play your steel,the first thing they do is squeeze your picks togather.Then you get to start all over.So take some time with them until you get em just right.
Posted: 24 Jan 2011 3:35 pm
by Scott Shipley
No power without picks?
Tell that to Redd V.