Bob you can close this /thanks everyone Mike

Mike Archer · Post by **Mike Archer** » 9 Jan 2011 7:57 pm

im asking this because of replacement
knees....

how many lower Es on the right side on there
push pull emmons?

Tom Keller · Post by **Tom Keller** » 9 Jan 2011 8:34 pm

Right Knee, I started on a Sho Bud.

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Paul Sutherland · Post by **Paul Sutherland** » 9 Jan 2011 11:59 pm

I lower my Es on the right knee (RKR), but it has nothing to do with knee problems.

Mike Perlowin · Post by **Mike Perlowin** » 10 Jan 2011 12:18 am

Roual Ranes · Post by **Roual Ranes** » 10 Jan 2011 3:43 am

Right for me.

Ben Lawson · Post by **Ben Lawson** » 10 Jan 2011 4:13 am

Dick Sexton · Post by **Dick Sexton** » 10 Jan 2011 5:23 am

Always been RKL... Never touched a Sho-Bud. Don't have a Knee problem. Does mental count, married three times, "I've earned crazy".

Your poll... $:\$

Larry Bell · Post by **Larry Bell** » 10 Jan 2011 5:50 am

RKL on all my guitars -- push pull and all pull

Most of us who started out on Sho-Bud or MSA guitars (and, as Dick mentions, others as well) had E to D# on the right knee. Buddy Emmons started the trend with that change on LKR and E to F on LKL but not all major players (e.g., Paul Franklin, Lloyd Green and others) followed suit.

Never any knee problems here either.

There have been many discussions of this topic. Do a search.

Mike Archer · Post by **Mike Archer** » 10 Jan 2011 6:21 am

thanks for the imput guys
I tried several times to do a search
but could not get what I wanted
ive always lowered es on the left but in recent years after having both kness replaced
I get a lot of pain after a time in the left knee
and leg right leg seems fine and I was thinking about changing the knees around.. on a pp this can be
costly so I wanted to get some views on the subject
so I may change my all pull and give that a try
thanks Mike

Rick Schmidt · Post by **Rick Schmidt** » 10 Jan 2011 7:03 am

RKL for me(old Sho-Bud guy). If I ever join the U12 club, I think I'll be glad that's where it is. I'd hate to have to hold in the E lever with the left knee in 6th mode.

I do have a "tricky" knee from an old surfing injury, but it only gives me trouble when carrying my boat anchor of a D-12 Dekley sometimes. $:\$

Michael Robertson · Post by **Michael Robertson** » 10 Jan 2011 7:59 am

Dick Sexton wrote: Does mental count,

Your poll... $:\$

Oh I hope so.
LKR

Hook Moore · Post by **Hook Moore** » 10 Jan 2011 8:34 am

I do RKL..

Bob Mueller · Post by **Bob Mueller** » 10 Jan 2011 8:51 am

RKR Just always did it that way, I'm not sure why but never had chance to play a real Steel till finaly got a Pedal Master. Now I'm stuck with old habits.
Bobby

Post by **Dave Mudgett** » 10 Jan 2011 10:13 am

I think the confusion lies in the fact that the poll asks, "how many lower there Es on the right side", and then the poll gives options

- "how many lower on the left side"

- "how many have knee problems"

RKL here. Knees are a bit weak from a youth spent as a baseball catcher, but not insurmountable. I also think E lowers can be made workable on either knee. If you don't like putting E=>Eb and E=>F on separate knees, you could put E=>F on the right knee also. Personally, I prefer them on separate knees.

Stu Schulman · Post by **Stu Schulman** » 10 Jan 2011 11:21 am

RKL Ancient Sho-Bud guy

My friend tells me that nobody uses my set up anymore,I see others still use it.

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 10 Jan 2011 11:23 am

RKL - i too started on a Bud & a prayer

Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 10 Jan 2011 11:39 am

I lower E's on RKR on my Emmons PP S12U.
This is how Jeff Newman was teaching it at the time I started playing an S12U.

Mike Archer · Post by **Mike Archer** » 10 Jan 2011 1:07 pm

sorry about the pole question
I goofed on the posting and I got it backwards
anyway I think yall get my point
my excuse is ive been sick for 2 weeks with the crud.....
thanks for the posts
Mike

Benton Allen · Post by **Benton Allen** » 10 Jan 2011 4:37 pm

Hi Mike!
I switched from the left knee to the right knee many years ago. I've not had any knee trouble, but I just like it better this way. It only took a few hours to get used to. I lower my "E" RKR and raise my "E" RKL. I setup all my guitars this way. Both Push/Pull and All Pull.

Mike Archer · Post by **Mike Archer** » 10 Jan 2011 5:10 pm

hey benton thats cool!!
I cant keep my left leg straight as I should
my weight is another problem too
my right leg is ok and im playing fine its just at the end of the night my left leg is hurting a lot
not from pedal action but lowering LKR
thanks for the post my friend
Mike

Dan Galysh · Post by **Dan Galysh** » 10 Jan 2011 5:32 pm

Tried it on LKR...went back to my roots on RKL (first guitar was a Sho Bud).

Randy Wade · Post by **Randy Wade** » 10 Jan 2011 5:54 pm

I wouldn't hesitate to relocate the E lower lever to the right side if it would free you up to play easier without fatigue. My first steel was a sho-bud crossover and it had that change on the right knee. It only had that knee lever and one other that lowered the second string. When I got my next steel it had both the E raise and E lower on the left knee and it felt good there so thats the way I have had it ever since. I could get used to it again on the right leg pretty easily if necessary.

Peter den Hartogh · Post by **Peter den Hartogh** » 10 Jan 2011 11:57 pm

John Bresler · Post by **John Bresler** » 11 Jan 2011 6:10 am

RKL on my Emmons PP.

George Kimery · Post by **George Kimery** » 11 Jan 2011 6:41 am

I have had 4 guitars in my life. The first two lowered the E's RKL. The last two LKR. I liked the RKL a lot better. It just allowed me to get from lowering the E's to raising the E's so much quicker and smoother. I never had any problem switching from one to the other so I don't think you will have any problem adjusting and I think you will like it better.

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Bob you can close this /thanks everyone Mike

Bob you can close this /thanks everyone Mike

Poll Confusion>>>>

thanks for the posts

Re: Poll Confusion>>>>

sorry about the pole question

hey Benton

Lowering E;s on the right side poll