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Topic: Steel Player on Alan Jackson's "Farewell Party" |
Darrell Owens
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Jack Stoner
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Posted 31 Dec 2010 3:01 am |
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| I have that CD and Paul Franklin is on the session. |
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Darrell Owens
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Posted 31 Dec 2010 3:51 am
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Thanks, Jack. that was my guess. I appreciate the response.
Paul has a unique ability to take a standard like that and take it to the next level while still retaining the tradition of the song.
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Darrell Owens
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 31 Dec 2010 7:35 am
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| I like Alan Jackson but there just is NO replacement for Gene Watson on this song. |
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Jack Stoner
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Posted 31 Dec 2010 11:44 am
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| Gene Watson is not the first to record this song. I forget who did it earlier but Jimmy Day is on steel on the session. |
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Bill Fisher
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Posted 31 Dec 2010 1:08 pm
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That's Johnny Bush with Jimmy Day. To me, that IS the absolute best version of this song. Little Jimmy Dickens recorded it first, however.
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Brett Day
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Posted 31 Dec 2010 3:06 pm
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Could be Paul Franklin or Robbie Flint. Robbie's played on a few of Alan's records in addition to Paul.
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Ben Lawson
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Posted 31 Dec 2010 6:51 pm
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| I heard it was Tommy White?????? |
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 31 Dec 2010 10:54 pm
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| The above posted link was copied from Alan's CD. Paul Franklin played that cut. |
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Darrell Owens
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California, USA
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David Nugent
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Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 1 Jan 2011 4:37 am
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| Alan Jackson's version of the song, "Farewell Party", is featured on the CD, "Under the Influence" and the only steel players listed in the credits section are Paul Franklin and Scotty Sanders. To my ear, the tone and feel are likely Paul's fine work. |
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Bent Romnes
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London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 1 Jan 2011 7:07 am
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| Erv Niehaus wrote: |
| I like Alan Jackson but there just is NO replacement for Gene Watson on this song. |
AND Lloyd Green
They all sing and play the song great. There are just many versions of greatness. But to me, Lloyd Green is the number one on this one. Maybe because the song just took off after Gene recorded it and it reached a new plateau.
I also love to read the history on the recording of this one, as only Lloyd can tell it. To me, the story is timeless. Somewhat the same as Charley Pride's Live album.
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Darrell Owens
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Nic du Toit
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Milnerton, Cape, South Africa
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Posted 1 Jan 2011 8:08 am
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Gene live at the Grand ole Opry...... The pit band had Hal Rugg on steel.....for me still the best steel backing, great turnaround and key change....., and great tone on the steel. Recorded it to cassette direct off the radio, at the time.....
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Jamie Lennon
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Posted 1 Jan 2011 8:12 am
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Alans version is my fave. Pauls solo is superb.
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Bent Romnes
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London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 1 Jan 2011 8:25 am
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Lloyd Green writes:
Although your words are on the Alan Jackson thread thanks for the generous thoughts concerning the Gene Watson record of “Farewell Party”. In fact, I had never heard the song until 5 minutes before we recorded it. Few had, other than some steel players because of Jimmy Day’s superb solo on the Bush record. If anyone reads the Alan Jackson liner notes that he wrote on the CD on which he cut the tune, he states that the solo I played on Watson’s record was one of the greatest ever. Of course, that’s only his opinion.
Lawton Williams, the writer of “Farewell Party” called me some years before his death in 2007 and said it was important to him that I understood and knew, in his estimation, my solo and fills were the definitive steel parts of any version ever recorded of his song. That was a moment of quiet contemplation for me from the writer who also wrote “Fraulein” and other classics of the 1950s & ‘60s. His words carried a lot of currency with me.
I think, since this great song and the various recordings of it regularly get brought up on the steel forum, it would add a little more knowledge and color to the various incarnations of “Farewell Party” if you’d like to post it.
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Nic du Toit
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Milnerton, Cape, South Africa
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Posted 1 Jan 2011 8:30 am
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Jamie,
Any idea how they got that sound on Paul's steel?....I suppose it's studio engineered....or what do you reckon?
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 1 Jan 2011 8:32 am
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Bent,
Thanks so much for posting that.  |
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 1 Jan 2011 9:17 am
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Lloyd said:
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| If anyone reads the Alan Jackson liner notes that he wrote on the CD on which he cut the tune, he states that the solo I played on Watson’s record was one of the greatest ever. Of course, that’s only his opinion. |
Not just his opinion, Lloyd. Your playing on that song actually gives me the shivers. Absolutely great.
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Bill Fisher
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Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 1 Jan 2011 2:04 pm
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Has everyone who is responding to this thread actually heard the Johnny Bush version with Jimmy Day? Just curious.
I also appreciate Lloyd's response about Lawton Williams, but years before Gene Watson ever recorded this song, I contacted Lawton Williams to see who recorded it, because in the past I had heard it, but didn't know who it was. I thought it was Hank Locklin I'd heard, so I called him. Hank said he didn't record it, but told me to contact Lawton Williams, as he wrote it. When I got a hold of Lawton, his response to me was "he didn't remember who cut it". He took a few minutes, then asked his wife who cut it, and after several more minutes, they finally came to the conclusion they thought it was Johnny Bush. Johnny Bush was almost unheard of in those days. So I really wonder about the "difinitive steel" reply that was mentioned. Perhaps Lawton forgot about the Johnny Bush version that contains the BEST steel turn-around, ever, in my opinion, for this song. I imagine Lawton's gesture had more to do with "amount of sales", than anything else; not taking anything away from Lloyd's playing. Lawton also gave the gold writers plaque he received for this song to Gene Watson. What does that tell you? To those that haven't heard Johnny Bush with Jimmy Day, please LISTEN. IT'S GREAT. And don't get me wrong. I like ALL versions of this song. I just hope everyone gets to hear the Jimmy Day turn-around. It's something very, very special; different than the other "common-steel" recordings of this song mentioned in this thread. And, you can buy the CD from the Johnny Bush web-site. I did.
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Jamie Lennon
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Posted 1 Jan 2011 3:18 pm
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Hey Nic,
The sound on Pauls steel is Pauls hands, equiptment etc.
I can always tell when its Paul, maybe with a little studio magic too. Pauls sound sounds slightly different on each Alan Jackson album I've heard but I always know when its him.
Hearing paul live is as good as hearing him on cd.
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 1 Jan 2011 4:40 pm
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| Has everyone who is responding to this thread actually heard the Johnny Bush version with Jimmy Day? Just curious. |
Yes, as well as the Jackson and Joe Nichols version (which I could take or leave). As much as I like Johnny Bush and Jimmy Day, even though Day has never really been one of my absolute favorite players, I think the combination of Lloyd Green and Gene Watson just clicks better for ME.
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Johnny Cox
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Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 1 Jan 2011 5:15 pm
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It is not possible to compare the Johnny Bush / Jimmy Day version with the Gene Watson / Lloyd Green version. They are totally different versions sang by two completey different and equally wonderful singers with two of the greatest steel guitar players to ever be recorded. Both recordings are equally great in their own right. It is so wrong to compare even think about comparing them.
Alan Jackson's cut is good but not even in the same class as Gene Watson or Johnny Bush's records.
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Nic du Toit
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Milnerton, Cape, South Africa
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Posted 2 Jan 2011 1:12 am
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Thanks Jamie. You are right about Paul... Absolute masterful player. I was just curious on the technical side of things.....it sounds like some clever technical twinning of the steel sound.....whether produced by his rack effects, or studio magic.... great sound, anyway.
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Craig A Davidson
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Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 2 Jan 2011 5:05 am
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| This is a little off-topic but Johnny Bush credits the key change idea to Jerry Reed. It is a tough call for me to choose since I am a big fan of Lloyd and Jimmy. Not to mention Johnny and Gene. |
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