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Daniel Morris


From:
Westlake, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2010 1:25 pm    
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For reference (and students), is there a video clip - or something equally transparent - to show the proper way to tune the E9 neck? It's probably in this site somewhere, but I'd like to have a link. Tuner charts are nice, but as a student of mine got a Carter Starter with Joe Wright's CD, showing a short tuning section, I thought perhaps a tad better video might be helpful in lieu of a tuner.
Thanks.
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richard burton


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Britain
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2010 1:59 pm    
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Have you got a thousand years to spare ??
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Ken Metcalf


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San Antonio Texas USA
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2010 2:19 pm    
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Go to Austin Steel Guitar Co-op website and click on Free Stuff.
At the bottom of the page there is a video of Jeff Neumann demonstrating.
Enjoy
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Daniel Morris


From:
Westlake, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2010 2:43 pm    
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Yea, tuning is a real can of worms, Richard!
A guitarist buddy of mine, when asked about tuning, said something like, "in tune? when? in which room?"

Thanks for the link, Ken. I have Jeff's chart, but didn't know about the video. That should help.
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Robert Murphy


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West Virginia
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2010 3:03 pm    
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For me the easiest tuning comes with the Peterson tuner
SE9 setting. For students like myself there are bigger fish to fry than the endless tuning vortex.
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Daniel Morris


From:
Westlake, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2010 3:14 pm    
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Thanks, Robert.
Yes, I've heard of the Peterson tuner.
That may be the best tuner option - to which model are you referring, the Strobo Flip? That may be a good option for me (I have a Korg), although I don't know how it would work with my U12 (in B6 mode).
I was trying to avoid having a student invest in too many things before knowing if he really wants to/is able to follow through on pedal steel.
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Robert Murphy


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West Virginia
Post  Posted 3 Dec 2010 5:19 am    
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I have the older VSII and you should look for a used one as they can run $100.
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CrowBear Schmitt


From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
Post  Posted 3 Dec 2010 5:27 am    
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Tuning via harmonics is the way to go
let them ears be your guide
that's how steelers did for decades before them fandangled tuners came round Winking

here we go :
(you won't learn this all in 1 shot but take it by steps)

using harmonics on each :
on left reference tone / on right string to tune

press pedals A & B when tuning the E's to 440 or 442,then release them for the rest of the procedure unless specified

E : string 8 fret 5 / string 4 fret 12

B : string 10 fret 5 / string 5 fret 12

F# : string 5 fret 7 / String 1 fret 12 - string
F# : string 1 fret 12 / string 7 fret 5

G# : string 8 fret 4 ( yep 4) / string 6 fret 5
G# : string 4 ( yep 4 ) / string 3 fret 5

Eb : string 5 fret 4 / string 2 fret 5

E : string 8 w: A&B fret 5 / string 6 w: A&B fret 7

A : string 6 w: A&B fret 5 / string 3 w: A&B fret 12
A : string 6 w: A&B fret 12 / string 9 fret 7

C# : string 5 w: A&B fret 12 / string 10 w: A&B fret 5
C# : string 6 w: B&C fret 4 / string 4 w: B&C fret 7
C# : string 6 w: B&C fret 4 / string 5 w: B&C fret 5

Eb : string 2 fret 12 / string 4 w lever E fret 12
Eb : string 2 fret 12 / string 8 w: lever E fret 5

B(G# lever): string 5 fret 5 / string 7 w: lever G fret 4
G# : string 3 fret 12 / string 1 w: lever G fret 12

F : string 5 w: A&B fret 4 / string 4 w: lever F fret 5
F : string 4 w: lever F fret 12 / string 8 w: lever F fret 5

Bb : string 7 fret 4 / string 5 w: lever V fret 5
Bb : string 5 w: lever V fret 12 / string 10 w: lever V fret 5

D : string 9 fret 5 / string 2 w: lever D fret 12

you can get a harmonic on the 4th fret - certainly not as easy as on frets 5,7 & 12
look for it, it's there
lever E lowers Es a half
lever F raises Es a half
lever G raises F#s a whole
lever D lowers Eb a half
lever V lowers Bs a half


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Brint Hannay

 

From:
Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 3 Dec 2010 7:25 am    
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Maybe there should be a dedicated "Tuning" section of the Forum! (I'm not serious!) It would probably be in the top three most-posted sections. Razz Wink
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Daniel Morris


From:
Westlake, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 3 Dec 2010 2:17 pm    
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Thanks, y'all.
Robert: what is a VSII?
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