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Johnny Baker

 

From:
Southport, Fla
Post  Posted 14 Aug 2010 1:11 pm    
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I see some doing it and I some, like me, not doing it. Which is right, which is wrong, or does it
really matter? Does slow you down to do it or does
it make you faster not doing it?

What I am talking about is moving your bar back and
forth as you move it up and down the fret board.
You are covering only the strings you play or you
cover all the strings all the time.

I have yet to see any instruction on that, you
thoughts.
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Ray McCarthy

 

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New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 14 Aug 2010 1:29 pm    
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Moving the bar down to play the lower strings lessens the chance of buzzing. I'm training myself to do it but sometimes I just forget. It's not automatic yet for me.
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Johnny Baker

 

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Southport, Fla
Post  Posted 14 Aug 2010 1:42 pm     Steel Bar & String Technique
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I forget, most of the time. I can do it, some.
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Bob Kagy

 

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Lafayette, CO USA
Post  Posted 14 Aug 2010 2:24 pm    
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Johnny, it's considered good technique by some to do that for a couple reasons.

The sweet spot is the upper 1/3 of the bar (toward the treble strings). And it also brings the possibility of doing middle finger bar hand muting which can be useful.

Jeff Newman and Joe Wright to name 2 teachers taught this.

Obviously you can't do it when you're playing say strings 3 5 and 10 at the same time.

Hope this helps.
bk
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Tim Heidner

 

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Groves, TX
Post  Posted 14 Aug 2010 6:22 pm    
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I think it's a way of "muting" the strings you aren't using.
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Dave Magram

 

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San Jose, California, USA
Post  Posted 15 Aug 2010 11:15 pm    
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Every professional steel player I've seen uses this technique. It gives you the best tone with the least effort, and helps in muting with both the left thumb and the left middle finger.

The best way to learn is by watching a really good steel player, and YouTube offers many chances to do just that.

Check out the bar-hand technique of the late, great Hal Rugg on what I consider one of the hottest steel solos of all time--
"George Jones and Tammy Wynette - Milwaukee Here I Come"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pQObXNIQvo

Hal's solo starts at 1:58. He does it all, including a bar lift near the end.

- Dave
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Ken Metcalf


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San Antonio Texas USA
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2010 4:46 am    
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You don't have to push so hard when just using the end of the bar..
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Franklin

 

Post  Posted 16 Aug 2010 5:21 am    
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Its done mostly for tone and fretting accuracy....It helps, as Ken pointed out, with intonation by not having to push down as hard......The bar should not have much downward pressure at any given time to prevent detuning.....Paul
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Bob Kagy

 

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Lafayette, CO USA
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2010 11:53 am    
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Nice YouTube quote Dave.
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Tim Heidner

 

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Groves, TX
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2010 5:36 pm    
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That was great! Why did he fan his fingers behind the bar like that?
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Jim Bob Sedgwick

 

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Clinton, Missouri USA
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2010 6:04 pm    
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Tim Heidner wrote:
That was great! Why did he fan his fingers behind the bar like that?



Tim, "fanning"" your fingers out lets you see the fret you are going to as you are descending on the fret board.
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Tim Heidner

 

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Groves, TX
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2010 6:08 pm    
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Ah So!!! Idea

I'm gonna have to try that! Mr. Green
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Johnny Baker

 

From:
Southport, Fla
Post  Posted 27 Aug 2010 6:42 pm     Steel Bar & String Technique
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I saw it, it smoke, my my my that guy was flat out
picking it.
Seriously, I appreciate all the fine input and I have
been striving more, in the last few days to learn
that and make it part of all my playin.
As I said, I am an amatuer and probably always will
be, but I do enjoy making the music, even if I am
the only one who likes it. Shocked Very Happy Shocked Very Happy
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Rick Abbott

 

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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2010 9:09 pm    
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