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tuning question

Posted: 14 Oct 2010 1:24 pm
by Byron Burton
when i bought my mullen d10 a year ago it was tuned with LKV to A# ON 5 AND 10. LKR was tuned to D# on 4 and 8. all other strings is standard e9th emmons tuning and thats the way i learned. just recently i realized that this was not the standard eth tuning and tried to adjust but LKV will not raise high enough to catch the Bb and the LKR won't raise high enough to hit the Eb. is there somthing i need to adjust underneith. thanks for any help.

Posted: 14 Oct 2010 1:28 pm
by Erv Niehaus
Bb and A# are the same note.
D# and Eb are the same note.
Why would there be a problem? :roll:

Posted: 14 Oct 2010 1:38 pm
by Byron Burton
you are so right. what was i thinking... i wasn't .. thanks.

Posted: 14 Oct 2010 1:38 pm
by Dan Najvar
Think of those as lowers to keep your mind in check. Look at the right end of the changer and as you move the lever find the rod for that change. Try tuning it there first
With the lever depressed. If that doesn't get it then it could be another change rod out of wack on the same string. (Too tight) another cause could be a slipped bell crank if you have round cross shafts. Hope this helps.

Re: tuning question

Posted: 14 Oct 2010 4:56 pm
by C Dixon
Byron Burton wrote:when i bought my mullen d10 a year ago it was tuned with LKV to A# ON 5 AND 10. LKR was tuned to D# on 4 and 8. all other strings is standard e9th emmons tuning and thats the way i learned. just recently i realized that this was not the standard eth tuning and tried to adjust but LKV will not raise high enough to catch the Bb and the LKR won't raise high enough to hit the Eb. is there somthing i need to adjust underneith. thanks for any help.
Byron,

Remember the word "standard" has NEVER meant that ALL do it. It simply means that most do it. Such is the case with the "standard" built PSG from the factories. IE:

LKL raises the E's a half tone

LKV lowers the B's a half tone

LKR lowers the E's a half tone

Pedal 1 (called the A pedal) raises the B's a whole tone.

Pedal 2 (called the B pedal) raises he G#'s a half tone.

Pedal 3 (called the C pedal) raises 4 and 5 a whole tone.

RKL raises 2 a half tone and lowers 6 a whole tone.

RKR lowers 2 a whole tone with half-stop at half tone. AND it lowers 9 a half tone.

This setup IS what MOST builders ship MOST of the time, regardless of what you may have been told.

However having said that, there are some new "standard" changes that are emerging and I mean fast.

And this is due to the incredible work of Paul Franklin, who uses these NEW "standard" changes on MOST of the top recordings you hear on so-called "COUNTRY" stations.

IE:

changing RKL on the "standard" E9th setup to raise the 1st string a whole tone and raise the 2nd string a half tone.

Adding the raising of the 8th string on the 3rd pedal a whole tone.

Finally, the first 3 pedals are being shifted one pedal each to the right, and adding what is called the "0" pedal in the spot where the 1st pedal was and it is setup as follows:

1. To lower 5, 6 and 10 a whole tone.

Flame away pahdnahs if'n ya choose to! I stand on it.

c.

Posted: 16 Nov 2010 4:32 am
by Paulo Perin
Hello Byron. Greetings. I sent you a pm.

Posted: 16 Nov 2010 7:14 am
by Don Brown, Sr.
Brian,

Your steel came just as it should have been. What you had are standard. Maybe below will help you out a bit.

A, (A#/Bb), B, C, (C#/Db), D, (D#/Eb), E, F, (F#/Gb), G, (G#/Ab) And back to A.

The notes in parenthesis are for practical purposes one and the same note. Depending on how it's used, although it's name changes, it's still the same note.

Hope that helps.......