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Tone Aligner pickups

Posted: 3 Oct 2010 4:58 pm
by Larry Behm
Just dropped a set in an 80's Emmons, drop dead quiet with the amp on 5. Loren Depping is one happy camper now.

Larry Behm

Posted: 3 Oct 2010 5:15 pm
by Jeshua Lehman
I am not familiar with tone aligners; how do they work?

Posted: 3 Oct 2010 5:24 pm
by Mike Perlowin
Jeshua Lehman wrote:I am not familiar with tone aligners; how do they work?
The pole pieces are magnetic set screws, so you can adjust the volume of each string relative to each other.

Posted: 3 Oct 2010 5:24 pm
by Bob Lawrence

Posted: 3 Oct 2010 5:28 pm
by Jeshua Lehman
I guess now that you say that i have seen them on electric guitars. I just have never thought about a name for them. Thanks for the post.
Lehman

Posted: 3 Oct 2010 6:33 pm
by Bob Hoffnar
They are copies of the Danny Shields "crap traps" pickups developed by Jim Pitman. I took over from Jim and make them now. I'm glad you are happy with the pickup Larry.

My website is totally neglected. They fit Carters now and I just made a batch of 12st pickups. They are all pretty much custom wound these days. I make them when I have time.

Posted: 3 Oct 2010 6:34 pm
by Chris Bauer
I have them in my Franklin and I can't say enough good things about them.

Posted: 4 Oct 2010 6:43 am
by Charles Pompe
Me too. Have them on my new Rains And I'll fight you for-em. Best Sound and no noise. Thanks Duane

Me too

Posted: 4 Oct 2010 7:06 am
by Michael Robertson
Made a big difference in my Mullen SD10.

Posted: 4 Oct 2010 8:05 am
by Mike Phillips
They are wonderful, they sound and look like a million bucks, and Bob is a real dude.

Posted: 4 Oct 2010 9:00 am
by Mike Perlowin
I use them too.I have them in both of my Millenniums. I had the stock Pickup, (I think it's a George L but I'm not sure,) and a True Tone. But after I tried out a Tone Aligner I traded the others in on a set.

As far as I'm concerned, the advantage of a modular pickup system is not that you can have a lot of different pickups, but that you can try out and compare them all, and see which one you prefer. I think every builder should have this feature in their guitars.

Posted: 4 Oct 2010 10:04 am
by richard burton
How do they compare to a single-coil pickup for clarity?

I am on what seems like a never-ending quest for a humbucking pickup, with the clarity of a single-coil

Posted: 4 Oct 2010 11:03 am
by Brint Hannay
Jeshua Lehman wrote:I am not familiar with tone aligners; how do they work?
Larry B., maybe for the sake of clarity you could edit the topic title to say "ToneAligner pickups", not just "Tone Aligners". Unfamiliar readers might think it is referring to some other sort of device (as I suspect Jeshua may have).

Posted: 4 Oct 2010 4:12 pm
by Marty Holmes
I'm with Richard Burton i love the sound of a single coil pick-up wound at 17,200 ohms.How do these tonealigners stack up to the sound of a Wallace true tone pick-up?Do they have the sweetness,and brilliancy of a single coil pick-up? Marty

Posted: 4 Oct 2010 4:25 pm
by Mark Durante
There is always that trade off between the low strings sounding great but the high strings being to shrill or the highs sounding smooth but the lows muddy. That being said I got a ToneAligner from Bob in St Louis a few years back, put it in my Emmons
P-P and I gotta say overall I like it better than the original pickup. No hum either.

Posted: 4 Oct 2010 5:13 pm
by Bent Romnes
richard burton wrote:How do they compare to a single-coil pickup for clarity?

I am on what seems like a never-ending quest for a humbucking pickup, with the clarity of a single-coil
And I must be going about it the wrong way. I am trying to make a single coil as quiet as a humbucker

Posted: 4 Oct 2010 7:30 pm
by chas smith
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I got pair and I love them.

Posted: 4 Oct 2010 8:02 pm
by Mike Perlowin
richard burton wrote: I am on what seems like a never-ending quest for a humbucking pickup, with the clarity of a single-coil


The Lace Alumitone pickup is like that. But it does not have the capacity to adjust the volume of each individual string.

I've been told that the Tone Aligners can be made to sound thinner or fatter by making one coil louder than the other. I've not tried to do this myself.

Posted: 4 Oct 2010 9:18 pm
by richard burton
Bent,
If you can make a single-coil as quiet as a humbucker, then that would be the answer to my quest :D

Posted: 5 Oct 2010 9:40 am
by Jim Pitman
Go Bob Go. Glad to see you are carrying on.
The key to thier sonic character is matching the coils resistance/inductance/capacitance/tension, and even position of the winds, wind per wind. In this manner both coils make a contribution to the signal without destructive interference that can happen on other dual coil pickups. Bob's got the one and only machine that can do that yet be able to customize as well as far as I know.

Posted: 5 Oct 2010 12:13 pm
by Jan Jonsson
I've got a ToneAligner pickup in the neck position of my Desert Rose guitar, and I can only say that it is an amazing pickup. Not only is it noise-free, but it sounds as warm and clear as I hoped it would.

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-- Jan

Posted: 7 Oct 2010 10:07 am
by Brint Hannay
Bob Hoffnar wrote:My website is totally neglected. They fit Carters now
Does this mean they'll also fit Sho-Buds now?

Posted: 7 Oct 2010 11:59 am
by Bob Hoffnar
They do fit and mount properly in Sho-Buds also.

Posted: 7 Oct 2010 12:46 pm
by Bent Romnes
richard burton wrote:Bent,
If you can make a single-coil as quiet as a humbucker, then that would be the answer to my quest :D
Richard, Don't expect miracles but I am working on it.

Posted: 7 Oct 2010 9:36 pm
by Dean Holman
Which seems to be the favorite? The one wound to17.8 or the one wound to 18.5