Carter Vertical Lever Won't Stay Up

Joe Harwell · From: "I've never been bad." ........ Many, LA

Carter left vertical lever works fine but flops down.

Currently held up with a cable tie.

Does anyone know how to fix this?
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Joe in LA

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Bent Romnes · From: London,Ontario, Canada

Joe, is there a screw and nut that tightens the lever onto the lever crank? There should be an adjustment screw on there. I believe every guitar would have this.
On my guitar I have a screw with a lock nut that enables me to turn to the exact tightness needed.
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Jerry Overstreet · From: Louisville Ky

Well, there's opportunity for lots of good jokes, but that's too easy Exclamation

http://www.steelguitarinfo.com/adjustments/kneelevers_ss/sld001.htm

Here's a shot of a reg kl on Carter's site. If your push-up mounts like this, you should be able to tighten up the attaching nut and bolt as Bent mentioned. Good Luck!

Charlie Paterno · From: Westerly, Rhode Island, USA

Just yesterday I saw a Carter with this problem. My guess is your guitar has a rollpin. Mine has a button head screw. Tighten the screw it squeezes the lever to the bracket. You might need to get a screw on there. Charlie

Joe Harwell · From: "I've never been bad." ........ Many, LA

Bent

The up lever is attached with a roll pin to the mechanism that actuates the bell crank-no tension adjustment unless I crimp the up lever to add tension.
Then there's a small cap screw with about a 1/4" travel adjustment.

Not like others I've worked on.

Thanks for taking time with a reply! Smile

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Joe in LA

"How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak & the strong; because, someday in life you will have been all of these".

Joe Harwell · From: "I've never been bad." ........ Many, LA

Jerry

Ha! See what you mean. A little humor relieves stress.

There's a wealth of info there and I've checked it out.

But my up lever doesn't have the stop. It'll rotate all the way around.

I'm used to a rod travel adjustment and then the lever adjustment for leg contact.

Thanks for you time.
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Joe in LA

"How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak & the strong; because, someday in life you will have been all of these".

Joe Harwell · From: "I've never been bad." ........ Many, LA

You're right, Charlie.

I was just wondered if the wrong part was installed but it isn't.

Plays fine. Just not a pretty sight along side all the beautiful work that is there.

I've got an idea or two I'm gonna try to dress it some.

Thanks for your reply.
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Joe in LA

"How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak & the strong; because, someday in life you will have been all of these".

Bob Cox · From: Buckeye State

You could always remove the roll pin ,simply drive it out,drill a little larger hole ,install stainless steel machine screw with nut, and lock washer. Tighten it up till lever stays up.

Joe Harwell · From: "I've never been bad." ........ Many, LA

Thanks for that suggestion, Bob.

How long do you think the tension would last in the soft aluminum?

I thought about getting a couple of parts machined to attach to the lever and its mount with some set screws and add a conventional adjusting bolt/nut.

Wonder if anyone else created a solution?

Sincerely
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Joe in LA

"How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak & the strong; because, someday in life you will have been all of these".

Mac Knowles · From: Almonte,Ontario, Canada

I use a couple of small button magnets. One epoxied to the bracket, and the other one on the lever. Works for me.

Bent Romnes · From: London,Ontario, Canada

Don Brown, Sr. · From: New Jersey

Joe, Are you certain it's a Roll Pin and not a very small, allen head, shoulder screw?

Unless it isn't a factory installation?

I can't see anyone using a Roll Pin, for a vertical lever that needs to stay up and in place, while at the same time, needs to be able to fold back when the steel is cased.

I'd remove the bracket, and pull the pin, then drill out only one side of the lever hole, then thread the opposite side, and use a small shoulder bolt to tighten up, for adding just enough tension to keep that lever up, and yet allow it to fold back, when it goes in it's case...............

David Mason · From: Cambridge, MD, USA

I have the exact same situation on my Carter, exacerbated by an extension I put on there. I use an... ummm... long wire twist tie! Your cable tie sounds too uptown for me! Hey, it works. Rolling Eyes

Pit Lenz · From: Cologne, Germany

Joe,
my LKV holds up with a spring. It came like that when I bought it through the forum, thought this was the standard way to attach, as this was my first LKV.
The lever is easy to unhook and flip over for transport if it sticks out too much in the playing position .
I like it!
Pit

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