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Sadly, I'm yet another statistic...a guitar player that had dreams of being a pedal steel player. I've watched this steel sit virtually unplayed for the past 6 years and it's time for it to find a new home.

I bought it directly from Chuck in November 2004. He had gotten it in on a trade from someone (from this forum) who was moving up to one of his fancier models.

I have no sense of what it is worth. I don't think it's as fancy as his S10 models, but really have no idea, as it doesn't really resemble anything he is currently building...I've left Chuck a couple voicemails, so hopefully he can shed some light.

Anyone have an idea of what exactly I've got, and what a fair value would be? I'm having trouble uploading photos, but there are a bunch of detailed pics here:

http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb10 ... rt%20Rose/

Looks like a beginner model to me. Somebody that just starting out on steel will probably buy it. In my opinion only, I'd put it in the 500 to 600 range.

It does look like a student model but it has four knee levers and looks like a well built guitar. If it has a case, I'd price it at about $700.00 plus shipping...

Love the fancy Russ-Ler pedals! I have them on mine.

This isn't a student model - it's just an earlier design that used some Russ-Ler parts. I think Chuck bought all of Russ-Ler's remaining stock at one point. Knowing Chuck, it probably works very well.

The changer is double-raise, double lower. Seems to me that the guitar should be worth about $1000.

The changer looks very ZB-like...is that Russ-ler too?

Ryan Barwin wrote:The changer looks very ZB-like...is that Russ-ler too?

That's a great question. Hopefully I'll get a hold of Chuck. Does anyone know if the cell number listed on his website is currently the best way to get in touch?

Ryan Barwin wrote:The changer looks very ZB-like...is that Russ-ler too?

Yes, as you can see in these pics:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=179691

Also, it appears that the correct spelling is Rus-ler. My bad.

Also, here:

from: http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... ght=rusler

Sorry guys I'm on the road in Austin and have not had the opportunity to respond. I have talked to Derek and shared with him this is one of my first student models. It does have a Russ-ler changer, and the original design was 3X3 but the previous owner wanted to add an additional knee lever. These were good playing and sounding guitars but I did not have enough requests to continue the model.

Chuck, how long are you in austin? Are you playing somewhere?

The reason I asked is I admire your work, and i figured you'd know a good tech in town, or maybe i could pay you for a lesson or two in steel maintenance if you're here for a bit and have some down time.

-Phil

Phil - Yes I am playing here with Vince Moreno. I've been here for about 10 days but I'm leaving on Sunday. We are playing tonight @ Don Juans, and tomorrow night @ the Longhorn in Bandera. Sorry we didn't connect up sooner because I did have down time Mon-Wed. I may be back next month so I will give you a heads ups when I will be back.

Thanks for the support!

Hope it's not too hot down there Chuck. Love my Delta Blues, it has one little snap under the hood, I think I need to turn it upside down and see what the heck. When are you going to come up and relax for a day or two and teach my Steel something again. Later
PS we still play when ever we get a chance and Your Steel can handle the sun just fine does not get out of tune like the pedel master

When I started working with Chuck trying to learn about pedal steel building and to help build my own steel that one was my first Desert Rose - The reason it was re-sold was that I fell in love with a piece of Birdseye Maple and wanted another steel. We built that S-1/2D-10 (which is 1/2 as wide a pad so on a 1 and a half body) when we finished that steel I told Chuck we could sell this Black one and he called that day. It sounded and played good and looks the same as the day it left AZ.

Many of you know that Birdseye steel to a vacation without me (it was stolen out of my house) and I got it back in about 11 months. In the mean time we built a double 10 ----- I still have the SD-10 and love it if someone wants a student model this is a great way to start.

b0b mentioned the Rus-ler parts --- Chuck did not mention it but he bought Rus-ler and a couple others ---- Man that seems like a long time ago - We have been through lots since then (right Chuck)

Now I build seats and Chuck is still building those fine Desert Rose steels - sound good and play like butter. (always wanted to use the butter reference)

Gin' back to buildin seats ----- Breaks over

Joe Naylor
www.steelseat.com

And in the tweed Gibson case Derek is a EH-?

If you really want to move it, price it at 700.00 shipped in the lower 48.

Kevin Mincke wrote:And in the tweed Gibson case Derek is a EH-?

It's an EH 125 as far as I know. I got it a while ago and I recall it being the next one down from the Gibson with the Charlie Christian pickup, the EH 150.