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Domland Stereo (Revisited)

Posted: 8 Aug 2010 4:37 am
by Bill Rode
Hello everyone!
This is my very first post here as I'm a new member as of yesterday. I have a question for all of you here and hope there are some folks out there that can assist. I have a Domland Stereo PSG that I picked up and am starting to refurb it. The guitar has seen some use and mods over the years and is actually a good sounding unit despite what it's seen over the years. I've checked the Forum archives for info and found a few posts about these but nothing in depth. What I would like is some pics of other Domlands if there ARE any out there for comparison on mine and also any help in the setup and adjustments for this guitar. Basically ANYTHING anyone has out there that will be of assistance in my quest for returning a unique PSG back to as close to stock as possible. I'm sure these are a rare bird these days, not sure on the year of mine but estimate it to be a 60's model. It's all cable drive and lot's of pedals but no knees ( It looks like they were there once but removed ). Any and all help will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance and glad to be a full member now and not just a lurker in the weeds.
Bill

Posted: 8 Aug 2010 4:56 am
by J D Sauser
How about YOU start posting a pic or too of your discovery?
You might get more feed back.

.... J-D.

Posted: 8 Aug 2010 5:08 am
by Bill Rode
JD,
Just as soon as I get my camera back from my teenage son I will gladly post some pics of my find.

Posted: 8 Aug 2010 5:14 am
by J D Sauser
Bill Rode wrote:JD,
Just as soon as I get my camera back from my teenage son I will gladly post some pics of my find.
Good luck with that, Bill. Wouldn't it be easier to just buy yourself a new one? :D

... J-D.

Posted: 8 Aug 2010 10:38 am
by Bill Rode
Okay here are some pics of it as I received it. I have since removed the LED light bars used for fret position reference and switch box that controlled them.

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Posted: 8 Aug 2010 12:38 pm
by Rich Peterson
Nice looking wood. A lot of extra body behind the changers.

Posted: 8 Aug 2010 3:53 pm
by Larry Baker
positioning the volume pedal looks like it would be a little tricky?????

Posted: 8 Aug 2010 6:53 pm
by J D Sauser
I seem to remember having seen that guitar somewhere sometime. Must be many years ago. I checked ALL my stored pictures, but to no avail, sorry.

I am afraid this one will raise more questions than answers.

One thing I would like to know is what the little switches (?) along the top neck's changer are for?


The whole guitar seems a strange mix of Wright Custom/Bigsby era design (the wood, the rounded end plates, the fact that some strings seem to bypass the changer mechanism...) mixed with a touch of 1970's tech looks.


What does the undercarriage look like?

... J-D.

Posted: 9 Aug 2010 5:42 pm
by Dave Simonis
Bill,

Here's a few pics of a Domland I kept on my PC for the reason I liked the look. I believe I got these off Craigs List a few years back - maybe even belongs to a forumite? Not sure -


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Posted: 9 Aug 2010 5:56 pm
by Bill Rode
The little things along to top of each neck were ( as they are now removed )LED's for what looked like position marking in dim lighted areas I'm guessing. They were controlled by a box of 3 way switches at the rear of the top changer area. All this was home made and hard wired and soldered to pc boards, mounted to aluminum channel and screwed to the guitar. I was non-functioning when I received it and since it was not stock I removed it all.
Also non of the strings bypass the changer it must be the poor picture angle causing it to appear so.
Bill

Posted: 9 Aug 2010 6:00 pm
by Bill Rode
Thanks Dave for the post and pics you have. If it's no trouble could you email me those so I may see them better for restoration considerations on mine please? I need undercarriage views especially as mine has the knee levers removed.
Bill

Posted: 9 Aug 2010 6:51 pm
by Bent Romnes
Bill, that is a cool looking guitar! It appears to have birdseye maple in the body. Think you could get some nice clear under-body shots as well? The solid look of it makes me think of the Blanton style of building. If it sounds as good as the Blanton, you got yourself a winner. Could you do me one more favor and weigh it? Easy, you know, use your bathroom scales.

Posted: 9 Aug 2010 7:02 pm
by Thiel Hatt
Many years ago I had owned two different Domland Pedal Steel Guitars which I bought from Don Edwards in Denver Colorado. The first one was cable operated and had ten pedals and four knee levers. The last one was rod operated and had ten pedals and seven knee levers. Both had the single dual coil pick-ups. I got a lot of miles out of the rod operated guitar. I no longer own it but it is still around and still in good playing condition. (A pretty good instrument for it's time)

Posted: 10 Aug 2010 2:52 am
by Bill Rode
This one has some very good looking wood and I think will clean up nicely. You gotta love Birdseye Maple!! This baby weighs a ton, Brent I'll weight it and get some more pics up in the next few days.
Thiel thanks for the input on the Dom's. Wish you had some pics of them, especially the cable one as mine is cable controlled. I keep getting the Don Edwards reference along with Willy Domland as the builders of these. Are they still with us or have they passed? Sure would be great to get some insite from them or family on the history of these fine guitars.
Bill

Posted: 10 Aug 2010 7:39 pm
by Thiel Hatt
Willy Domland was the one who actually built the instruments. Don Edwards was the distributor through his Music Store. Don worked with Willy on ideas and changes and improvements on the guitars and was a real lover of pedal steel guitar. I'm not sure of the where-abouts of Willy Domland now but Don Edwards passed away several years ago. I knew him personally and had great respect for his upright dealings with his customers.

Posted: 11 Aug 2010 6:51 pm
by Bill Rode
Bent,
Here are some updated pics for you. A couple underside shots and how it looks now WITHOUT the LED's and switchbox.
Still wondering about why no knee levers, looks like there may have been some but not there now. Hmmmmmm :?

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Posted: 11 Aug 2010 8:01 pm
by Bent Romnes
Thanks so much Bill. Cables wow! Sure has that solid look to it.All we need now is a sound sample!

Posted: 12 Aug 2010 3:55 am
by Dave Grothusen
Dick Meis being from Denver may be able to help with questions. Do a search here to find him. He does have a web site.
In 1967 I went to Denver to Don Edward Guitar hoping to pick one of these up and wound up buying and MSA, the only pedal steel he had in the store. It was a good choice.

Posted: 15 Aug 2010 10:16 am
by Bill Rode
Still looking for any help from you folks here on the forum, any and all help would be appreciated.

Posted: 15 Aug 2010 8:18 pm
by John Bresler
Dick Meis' web site is www.pedalsteelguitar.net.

I was talking to Dick just a couple of weeks ago about the late Chuck Edwards Domland steel and he knows quite a lot about them.

Dicks phoine number is also on his web site.

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Posted: 15 Aug 2010 8:32 pm
by Herb Steiner
Terry Bethel used to play a Domland. I know we talked about it a long time ago, but I forget what was said. Maybe TB will chime in.

I'm looking at a Domland brochure I got back in the 60's. Now that I know more about steels than I did in 1966, I can see elements of Paul Bigsby and Chuck Wright, as was mentioned earlier.

Posted: 15 Aug 2010 10:38 pm
by Jussi Huhtakangas
For some reason I've always thought that Don Davis is playing a very early Domland here, but were any Domlands really made that early on? The clip is from ca. -55:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_esNDABJ53s

Posted: 16 Aug 2010 3:33 am
by Bill Rode
I sent an email to Dick Meis via his website but still haven't heard back from him. Herb I'd be very interested in seeing that brochure of yours as well.

Posted: 16 Aug 2010 4:49 am
by Herb Steiner
Jussi Huhtakangas wrote:For some reason I've always thought that Don Davis is playing a very early Domland here, but were any Domlands really made that early on? The clip is from ca. -55:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_esNDABJ53s
Davis is playing a Daland steel guitar. Very rare, I've only seen one in my life, but I recognize the logo. Bradshaw says only a few were made.

Posted: 17 Aug 2010 10:53 pm
by Jussi Huhtakangas
Wow, thanks for the info Herb!! I've never heard of Daland, do you know who made them??