Rittenberry or GFI ultra s10...what would you choose and why
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Rittenberry or GFI ultra s10...what would you choose and why
There aren't a lot of pedal steels to choose from here in Australia but two have come up on the second hand market...a gfi ultra s10 and a rittenberry s10. Both seemingly great condition but I don't know too much about the instruments yet, only that I want one so I can start playing
In your collected expert opinions which would you choose and why...the rittenberry is more expensive but I don't mind paying if it's worth it.
In your collected expert opinions which would you choose and why...the rittenberry is more expensive but I don't mind paying if it's worth it.
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One consideration is weight of the instrument. Both of these brands are good guitars, but the Rittenberry is much heavier than the GFI.
I started out on an MSA, a very heavy, solid guitar, and I like the feel of a solid guitar. The Rittenberry is built like that, very solid and substantial. It also plays nicely and sounds good.
I tried out a GFI in a store a few years ago, and it felt too light to me. I had the feeling that the whole guitar would go sideways when I used a knee lever. However, there are some great players like Mike Sigler playing GFI guitars and getting a great sound. The GFI is a pro-level guitar, and if you like a lighter weight instrument you may want to go that way. Either one would be a good choice...
I started out on an MSA, a very heavy, solid guitar, and I like the feel of a solid guitar. The Rittenberry is built like that, very solid and substantial. It also plays nicely and sounds good.
I tried out a GFI in a store a few years ago, and it felt too light to me. I had the feeling that the whole guitar would go sideways when I used a knee lever. However, there are some great players like Mike Sigler playing GFI guitars and getting a great sound. The GFI is a pro-level guitar, and if you like a lighter weight instrument you may want to go that way. Either one would be a good choice...
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I Have to agree with Larry. I have a GFI Ultra U-12, I bought it new and have been very pleased with it. It is easy to work on if you should want or need to. Sounds great, I've swapped out the pickup from the stock E-66, to a TrueTone, and now to an Alumitone and it sounded great with each one, but I prefer the Alumitone. It is relatively lightweight (which does matter when you're lugging it around. However, I have not yet had any problems with it being unstable or moving around while I play. I don't think you would be disappointed with the GFI as it is a well made guitar. As Larry said the Rittenberry may seem a bit more substantial due to the different design and materials. But, for what it's worth, I also have a Carter (which is not a Rittenberry) and I have found that the GFI and the Carter each have some aspects which the other doesn't have which are in my opinion a bit better than the other. My point with that is I would bet if you had those two guitars side by side, you would find some aspects of each that are better than the other. However, with the Rittenberry being a bit higher priced, the Rittenberry may have better resale later should you ever decide to sell it. You have a tough decision to make, though I don't think you'll go wrong with either one. Not sure I've helped or not.
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I would go for the Rittenberry. It is a bit heavier,
but it is one of the finest steel guitars made today.
Very easy & smooth action, with super sound & sustain.
Everything is very easy to adjust for action & comfort.
but it is one of the finest steel guitars made today.
Very easy & smooth action, with super sound & sustain.
Everything is very easy to adjust for action & comfort.
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Ritt!!!!!!
I agree with the Rittenberry group...........
Ritt is one of the best guitars being built today and hands down has the best tone.
Ritt is one of the best guitars being built today and hands down has the best tone.
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Rittenberry or GFI ultra S10 - what would you choose and why
I just bought a 2009 Rittenberry S10 and have to agree with all the Rittenberry group. I have a CMI D10 with 8 & 7 and age has dictated I must get lighter weight. I am a retired mechanical engineer and the design of the mechanisms underneath pedal steels is a major issue to me. I shopped the Forum for 4 weeks, looking at photos of the underside of guitars. I could tell the ones with the better looking parts and pieces and the one I chose was the Rittenberry. Many others had good design, but the guitar I chose was only 9 months old and the price was right. When I got it, I was really impressed. It had every adjustment that any player would want to make and all of them were so easy using only a small hex wrench. You won't go wrong with the Rittenberry!!!
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Question: How many knee levers does each one have? You need 4 preferably 5. Some GFIs student models only have 2. If this GFI only has 2, get the Ritt.
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Re: Rittenberry or GFI ultra s10...what would you choose and
Mike, a GFI student model isn't part of the equation. The Ultra comes with four knee levers as standard.Benjamin Wolfram wrote: two have come up on the second hand market...a gfi ultra s10 and a rittenberry s10.
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I have played my Rittenberry since March of 2009 and I have been very pleased with it I have maybe used my 74 Emmons D10 twice since I bought the Ritt! Plus Gary is a remarkable craftsman! I would say go with the Ritt..
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Re: Rittenberry or GFI ultra s10...what would you choose and
Oh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0Mark Eaton wrote:Mike, a GFI student model isn't part of the equation. The Ultra comes with four knee levers as standard.Benjamin Wolfram wrote: two have come up on the second hand market...a gfi ultra s10 and a rittenberry s10.
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I bought a used GFI Ultra SD10 2 years ago and have really enjoyed it as a beginner moving to intermediate. But, if I could get a Rittenberry for about the same price and in the same shape I would buy that instead. Check out this Bobbe Seymour video and you'll see why - for the sound - get the Rit!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba7dSHgqQkk
I've never heard a Rit live, but I can tell that for my taste it sounds better than a GFI.
Good luck!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba7dSHgqQkk
I've never heard a Rit live, but I can tell that for my taste it sounds better than a GFI.
Good luck!
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I really don't need another guitar, but I will have a new Rittenberry in about a month. Gary is very accommodating and the craftsmanship of his guitars is obvious. I'm sure the GFI is fine, but it's more of a mass produced guitar, while the Rittenberry is more of a custom guitar. I am very much looking forward to getting it.
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Rittenberry = Ferrari
GFI = Space Shuttle!
Bill says:
Go with the GFI. It is light years ahead of its time. If you are lucky enough to find a keyless, SNATCH it up. There are too many advantages with a keyless. Do a forum search and you will see. Gene Fields is a master builder with a lot of years invested.
GFI = Space Shuttle!
Bill says:
Well, that statement makes the case. GFIs are mass produced due to the fact that they are in such demand!I'm sure the GFI is fine, but it's more of a mass produced guitar, while the Rittenberry is more of a custom guitar.
Go with the GFI. It is light years ahead of its time. If you are lucky enough to find a keyless, SNATCH it up. There are too many advantages with a keyless. Do a forum search and you will see. Gene Fields is a master builder with a lot of years invested.
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Another vote for the Rittenberry!!
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Apples vs. Oranges
QUICK:
Somebody call Ralph Mooney, Norm Hamlett, Ronnie Miley?(with Charlie Pride) and Mike Sigler, and let them know they chose the wrong Steel
guitar.
Somebody call Ralph Mooney, Norm Hamlett, Ronnie Miley?(with Charlie Pride) and Mike Sigler, and let them know they chose the wrong Steel
guitar.