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Anyone tune their Dobro to C6th?
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 6:16 am
by John McConnell
I have just purchased a Dobro for an acoustic outing and I was wondering if I should tune it to C6th which I have a little experience with or should I go with the traditional Dobro tuning?
John McConnell
Yuba City, CA
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 7:03 am
by Brad Bechtel
WIll you be playing Hawaiian or mostly country? For most country/bluegrass music, open G will give you the sound others use.
I found that C6th tuning on my Dobro® is too weak, but that's only my opinon. Barney Isaacs made a very nice sounding CD with George Kuo called "Hawaiian Touch" using a Dobro® with C6th tuning.
Dobro® is a registered trademark of Gibson Musical Instruments.
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 7:18 am
by Erv Niehaus
I wouldn't tune a dobro to C6th unless it was an 8 string dobro.
BTW: I tune my dobro to an A tuning. This is the original Hawaiian tuning and the one I learned on.
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 9:00 am
by Will Jaffe
I have not tried C6 on a reso, but like Brad said the smaller gauge strings on a dobro will sound thin. No harm trying though.
Most 6 string reso players use open G for a good reason, it sounds great and is very versatile.
With open G you can play blues, rock, swing, jazz, bluegrass, country, etc.
All the notes are there.
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 9:06 am
by Ray Shakeshaft
I have C6/A7 on a Goldtone PBS so that I can just pick it up and practice without electrics. It sounds fine and far from thin.
I play that tuning on lap steels so why change?
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 9:10 am
by Gerald Ross
I use these gauged strings on my Gold Tone/Beard Squareneck Reso in C6 and it sounds great. Strings are nice and tight. They aren't as tight as a lot of Bluegrass guys in GBDGBD would like though.
.36 .30 .26 .24 .18(p) .16(p)
CEGACE
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 10:05 am
by Jim Grant
how about open g on a lap steel. I am building a double lap and was thinking about trying open g????If so would gages be same as on a regular dobro
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 12:08 pm
by Jerry Gleason
I keep a C6 tuning on my Hound Dog Dobro. It isn't quite as loud as it is with heavier strings and the standard tuning, but I think it sounds fine. I'm not a Dobro player, so I tend to treat it as a lap steel, anyway.
Here's a video of me playing "Under the Double Eagle" on it. I post this with apologies to John Ely, whose excellent arrangement for 8 string electric steel I mostly copped for this:
Under the Double Eagle (quicktime movie ~20MB or so)
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 12:36 pm
by Roy Thomson
Wonderful Playing Jerry!!!
I really liked that. The guitar,
the hands, the tuning all came together
in fine fashion.
Roy
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 12:58 pm
by Brad Bechtel
I've just started using open G tuning on lap steel again after mostly playing C6th and/or open D tunings. The Martin Bluegrass resophonic guitar strings (nickel wound, .016 to .059) work just great, as do the Asher lap steel strings. Any set of reasonably heavy nickel wound strings should do fine.
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 1:10 pm
by Bill McCloskey
It is hard to argue with great playing like that Jerry, and you've showed it can be done.
Not to get off topic, but what were you using to record this? particularly the video. I'm looking to set something like this up.
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 2:15 pm
by Dom Franco
I have my resonator tuned to A6th. With pretty heavy gauge strings, it is amazingly loud and full sounding. Every time I sit in at acoustic jam sessions, musicians are surprised by it's versatility and ask what tuning I am using.
Of course these are not strictly bluegrass songs, so for that situation I would use G6th. My strings are just right so that I can tune down 2 frets to G and still work fine.
Dom
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 2:46 pm
by Jerry Gleason
Thanks Roy, and Bill, for the nice comments on my video. Bill, I'll send you a PM regarding the production details so as not to divert this thread from the original topic.
The string gauges that I use ( .014, .018, .022, .026w, .030, .036) work fine for C6th (CEGACE low to high), A6th ( E on top), or B11.
G6th makes sense if you want to stick to the gauges for standard tuning.
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 3:25 pm
by Earnest Bovine
Yes; mine is C6 high and A7 low kinda like Jerry Byrd or Joachin Murphey, but with high D, not B. I often retune as the song requires, for example C down to B.
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 4:19 pm
by John McConnell
Thanks to you all for your input. I certainly have a lot to think about and try. I love this forum.
John McConnell
Yuba City, CA
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 4:46 pm
by Ryan Barwin
Great playing, Jerry. That was awesome!
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 5:43 pm
by Robbie Daniels
I have a six string dobro with a built in pickup like guitars and I use C6/A7 tuning. Works for me.
Posted: 9 Jun 2010 6:58 pm
by Don Barnhardt
I've been using C6and it sounds good with lighter strings but I'm going to try G6 for a while because I don't like tying up an instrument like that.
Posted: 11 Jun 2010 7:31 am
by Jerry Hayes
John, I have two Dobros one of which is tuned in the stadard G for bluegrass and one (my most used) is tuned to G6th for a more versatile tuning. With this you can still get the majority of your bluegrass stuff plus swing and jazzy sounding improvisations if you're into that. The tuning is (low to high) B D E G B D. What's also nice about this tuning is that you can retune two strings, the high D to E and the 3rd string G to G# and you've got an E7th tuning which is also very useful. On Chandler six string lap steel I have Keith/Scruggs banjo tuners with presets for this.......JH in Va.
Posted: 11 Jun 2010 6:49 pm
by John Drury
I have always used C6 on mine, started using open G on a second Dobro a couple years ago, and have a third one tuned to E.
Cindy Cashdollar sounds great on her Steel that Frank Campbell built for her, it is tuned to open G.
Posted: 12 Jun 2010 8:54 am
by Ryan Barwin
I like D6th on dobro...it works for country, blues, and bluegrass (cause it's got 5 open D strings) but it's got the swing sound cause of the 6th tone in it. I use that tuning on lap steel as well.
low to high: A B D F# A D
Posted: 12 Jun 2010 10:11 am
by Alan Brookes
Yes, I do. In fact I converted an 8-string fretless guitar to a resonator guitar especially so that I could use C6. (Actually, the scale is longer, so I use A6, but the relationship between the strings is the same.)
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... +resonator
Posted: 12 Jun 2010 11:27 am
by Roy Thomson
I use C6th on a Resonator I built. The Brute!
I have 8 strings on it but I have a slot on the
top to put the high G there. This comes in handy
when I do lessons ...some use high G and others
use traditional "E"
Either way the sound does not bother me at all.
I have a 6 string Dobro strung Bluegrass G Major.
Here is a short clip I just did for this thread.
http://www.mediafire.com/?2kqma1wmix1
Posted: 12 Jun 2010 4:48 pm
by Alan Brookes
Roy, I listened to your Walking the Floor Over You. Very nice.
Is that played on your Dobro or on the instrument in the photo?
Posted: 12 Jun 2010 4:58 pm
by Roy Thomson
Hi Alan,
That was played on the instrument in the photo
....the brute.