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Shobud Super Pro upgrades-END PLATE, KEYHEAD, CHANGER HOUSE

Posted: 30 Apr 2010 11:09 am
by James Morehead
We have a Super Pro in to refurbish. Unfortunately the original endplates, keyheads, and changer housings are honey combed with casting air pockets and pinholes. They are "swiss cheezed".

So we have CNC'ed new parts from 6061 aluminum. Here they are in the rough, for those who are fans of the Super Pro/Pro Custom era Shobuds. We make many replacement parts for undercarrage, too, for these guitars.

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Posted: 30 Apr 2010 11:12 am
by James Morehead
Here's the keyheads in the "rough".

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Posted: 30 Apr 2010 11:15 am
by James Morehead
The changer housings are close to being finished.

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Check out this link to see our endplates for the Professional D10:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... 57#1597757

Posted: 30 Apr 2010 12:16 pm
by John Billings
Stupendous!

Fingers?

Posted: 1 May 2010 10:48 am
by John Groover McDuffie
Are you planning on making aluminum replacement fingers for the Super Pro (3 raise 2 lower) 'Buds? I would like to replace the pot metal ones on mine. Also Would prefer pins to slots for the ball-end, but I'm sure there are many opinions on that one.

Me Too Please !!!

Posted: 1 May 2010 12:10 pm
by Reed Ohrbom
What John Groover McDuffie Said; Me Too !!!!!

James, what a great service you're providing; Your parts look fantastic, and I've been hoping you would eventually get to the Super Pro versions. I'm going to start saving my pennies for lots of your Super Pro upgrades as they become available, starting with cross-shaft bushings/brackets and changer fingers.

Reed

Posted: 1 May 2010 12:59 pm
by James Morehead
Yes on the finger upgrade---AND WITH PINZZZZ!!! Yee Haww!! 8)

Posted: 1 May 2010 1:35 pm
by Skip Edwards
Hey James...
Great stuff. Any more thoughts about the KL's we spoke about?
Another idea that would greatly improve this design...
How about a slightly modified bell crank that can easily be removed from the cross-shaft?

Posted: 1 May 2010 1:38 pm
by James Morehead
Dang, you ARE feeling better, Skip!! Yes much thought and many ideas floating aroundmy little pea-brain these dayz.

Posted: 1 May 2010 1:45 pm
by Skip Edwards
Yeah, much better. Thanks mucho...

Posted: 1 May 2010 7:57 pm
by Tony Glassman
James,

I need a couple of 2-holed bell-cranks that fit on a 5/16" cross-shaft (push-pull). I want to use them as leverage multipliers. Will yours work? Please, email me payment directions if you think the bell-cranks will work. Thx,

Tony

p.s. I've still got my Cooped red Pro II, I rebuilt. It sounds and plays great. I do need to figure out a mod to get my LKR situated more towards the rear apron rather than in the midline (see pix). I'm hoping I can squeeze it in between the LKL-E9th and LKL-C6th levers. Lemme know if you have any ideas

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(sorry for the double post. I didn't know which thread you'd be more likely to read!) :o

Posted: 1 May 2010 8:14 pm
by James Morehead
Hey Tony, shoot me an email at shobud@windstream.net and we will se if we can fix you up. :)

Posted: 2 May 2010 4:12 am
by Jack Musgrave
James, any thoughts on how to come up with adjustable return springs on the later model sho buds? would it require cutting slots in the end casting or is there another method

Posted: 2 May 2010 5:12 am
by James Morehead
Jack Musgrave wrote:James, any thoughts on how to come up with adjustable return springs on the later model sho buds? would it require cutting slots in the end casting or is there another method
Yes, This is also a point of consideration.

Posted: 2 May 2010 7:03 am
by Storm Rosson
:) Excellent James , I'm lookin at acquiring a sd-10 Pro III, if all goes well I will be on your bother list too (lol) as those are some sweet lookin parts bud (no pun intended) hehe :D

Posted: 2 May 2010 7:57 am
by Herb Steiner
James
Allow me to make a suggestion to your refurbs of Sho~Bud guitars, especially when new endplates have to be fabricated.

The weakest point of a Sho~Bud, IMHO is the neck selector and mini-switches on the right endplate, my opinion based on the sheer number of broken switches I see on these guitars.

I have a Professional that was originally made with the three switches centered between the necks (a' la Emmons/all modern guitars), with no holes ever in the endplate. It's a far superior place for these delicate components, though it's not original to most guitars you work on.

You're doing the good stuff, James. Sorry I missed you in Dallas.

Posted: 2 May 2010 8:05 am
by Brint Hannay
Funny how we're all different. I prefer slots to pins for the ball ends. I find string installation easier with the slots. Also, I've heard a few stories about pins breaking, and I don't recall ever hearing of a slot breaking (even though the Sho-Bud slotted fingers are pot metal). Might you consider making the fingers with slots as an option?

Posted: 2 May 2010 10:06 am
by John Groover McDuffie
+1 for the adjustable return springs mod. (I have seen this done to a Sho-Bud with parts ordered from Bruce Zumsteg, and it isn't super complicated.)

Posted: 2 May 2010 7:36 pm
by John Lacey
You got it, Herb. I wish more manufacturers would imitate the Emmons setup with a large solid switcher. Those mini's are just waiting for breakage.

Posted: 2 May 2010 8:43 pm
by Brint Hannay
I guess that's a valid point, but I haven't broken either end plate-mounted mini-switch (or the mini-pot) on my Super Pro in 26 years of gigging use.

Meanwhile--James, what about my "slots vs. pins" question?

Posted: 3 May 2010 6:03 am
by James Morehead
Hey Brint, I favor the pin setup. I do think we could possibly do the slots, but it would very likely add to the cost, on a special order. I never liked the slot for the larger C6th strings. But that's just me. I've never seen a broken pin. I have seen a broken out slot. But I have not seen em all yet, either.

Posted: 3 May 2010 7:15 pm
by Bent Romnes
Hey James I never knew that they had the extensions on the keyheads. I suppose it was done that way for extra holding power and also for more mass..to improve tone maybe?

Posted: 3 May 2010 7:29 pm
by James Morehead
Bent Romnes wrote:Hey James I never knew that they had the extensions on the keyheads. I suppose it was done that way for extra holding power and also for more mass..to improve tone maybe?
Welcome to the Super Pro era, Bent. No, it's just a design idea. The extension goes under the fretboard, and that extending piece is hollow--so it's not about "mass" or "holding power". Just something different during that era.

Posted: 1 Jun 2010 2:10 pm
by James Morehead
Here's some endplate finish pictures. This endplate is is 6061 aluminum.
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Posted: 1 Jun 2010 2:17 pm
by Marc Jenkins
Wow, James! Looks like you're settling back in to some great work after the weather-related troubles and displacements. Hoorah!