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"Wicked Game": Lap Steel B11 Tuning

Posted: 23 Mar 2010 11:18 pm
by Kay Das
This tune had women swooning...when Chris Isaak first sang it...

http://www.4shared.com/file/248134010/5 ... _Game.html

Credits: Kay Das on steel and rhythm tracks. West Coast B11, key of E



Kay

Posted: 24 Mar 2010 12:43 am
by Nils Fliegner
TAB, pleeeeease ...and you'll have me swooning, too! :D

Posted: 24 Mar 2010 1:56 am
by Andy Sandoval
Beautiful tone there Kay, and sounds great.

Posted: 24 Mar 2010 3:26 am
by Randy Reeves
very nice. made my morning.

Posted: 24 Mar 2010 3:41 am
by Roman Sonnleitner
Wow, that was GREAT!!!

Posted: 24 Mar 2010 5:23 am
by Peter Jacobs
BeaUtiful tone, Kay -- outstanding job. This is one of my favorite songs, and you really captured the mood. Thanks for posting!

Posted: 24 Mar 2010 6:32 am
by Richard Sevigny
Nice job, Mr Das 8) ..especially love the harmonics.

You're right, the women always get up and dance to this one.

Posted: 24 Mar 2010 7:29 am
by Bill Leff
That was beautiful Kay.

And you REALLY nailed the backing track.

Posted: 24 Mar 2010 7:58 am
by Jason Anderson
Nice work, I'm going to try this one out myself.

Posted: 24 Mar 2010 8:32 am
by Chuck S. Lettes
Hi Kay,
Great choice of tune and wonderful atmospheric arrangement. Is that a regular 6 string guitar (some kind of Fender)playing the fills in the background?
Chuck

Posted: 24 Mar 2010 8:49 am
by Doug Beaumier
Very nice, Kay. You've captured some magic with this one!

Posted: 24 Mar 2010 7:03 pm
by Charles Davidson
ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL !!!!! YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.

Posted: 24 Mar 2010 9:36 pm
by Kay Das
Gentlemen,

Grateful for the appreciation from all you great steelers. I am humbled. I am not the world's greatest tab man so that will take a little time. I am off to Hawaii tomorrow for a few days...

A little about the genesis of this rendition of this "women swooning" tune. I got first ideas of a steel version from a backing track I received from a guitar site (www.guitarchaos.com: it is a great site, with about 28,000 guitarists members), playing anything from heavy metal to blues to southern rock, lots of interactions, monthly competitions, originals, backing tracks etc. I believe I am the only steeler on it, it is a free site. The backing track had a good base line, which I retained, but the quality of the rhythm and lead was thin and tinny so I worked on top of them. I added four rhythm guitar tracks ( Martin acoustic, Stratocaster Craftsman electric, and two Strat direct mic'ed tracks. I used a SM57 mic all through. For the Strat leads I patched it thru an Alesis Quadraverb GT. It is a normal 6-stringer. There are just three chords to this tune: Bm/A/E.....

For the steel guitar, I wanted a close harmony at times so chose the B11 tuning. Except for a hint of a 7th or 9th about three quarters of the way through the lead I did not use any accidentals for harmony. I plugged the West Coast B 11 into a Fender HotRod via a FV300L foot-pedal and then directly to the mixer. There are two steel tracks, one with a 30mS and 50mS echo and one with a high overdrive, that I thought captured the atmosphere of the song.

For any more info or help please ask or e-mail me...

Kay

Posted: 24 Mar 2010 9:47 pm
by Tom Pettingill
That sounded great, thanks for the tune :)

Posted: 25 Mar 2010 3:51 am
by Jay Jessup
I believe Chris Issack released an instrumental version of the tune which is essentially the song with his vocals removed so if anyone wanted to fool with this tune without creating a backing track it's out there for you.
I thought this song would make a neat steel tune quite a while ago---I just didn't do anything about it and you did Kay---nice version!!

Posted: 25 Mar 2010 5:08 am
by Roman Sonnleitner
Kay Das wrote:I added four rhythm guitar tracks ( Martin acoustic, Stratocaster Craftsman electric, and two Strat direct mic'ed tracks. I used a SM57 mic all through. For the Strat leads I patched it thru an Alesis Quadraverb GT. It is a normal 6-stringer. There are just three chords to this tune: Bm/A/E.....

For the steel guitar, I wanted a close harmony at times so chose the B11 tuning. Except for a hint of a 7th or 9th about three quarters of the way through the lead I did not use any accidentals for harmony. I plugged the West Coast B 11 into a Fender HotRod via a FV300L foot-pedal and then directly to the mixer. There are two steel tracks, one with a 30mS and 50mS echo and one with a high overdrive, that I thought captured the atmosphere of the song.

For any more info or help please ask or e-mail me...

Kay
Sounds only marginally less complicated then the recording process for the original tune... :mrgreen:

http://mixonline.com/recording/intervie ... ks_wicked/

Posted: 26 Mar 2010 8:57 am
by Rich Hlaves
I really liked the way you used the steel for the vocal melody and kept the Straty lead intact. Very nice work.

Posted: 26 Mar 2010 10:14 am
by Peter Jacobs
[quote="Roman Sonnleitner]
Sounds only marginally less complicated then the recording process for the original tune... :mrgreen:

http://mixonline.com/recording/intervie ... ks_wicked/[/quote]

Oy vey. That's too much work for me. The amazing thing is Isaak can pull off that song live.

Posted: 26 Mar 2010 12:08 pm
by Rich Hlaves
Peter,

The song as Chris Issac did it is not really that difficult if you have a band member with a voice that can carry it. That would not be me but......

My old band, The RipTones played it 4 piece and it came off well. The other guitar player/vocalist played the Bm, A, E progression & sang and I did the lead work. Not too tough, a lot like playing steel with drippy reverb, clean headroom and the wang bar. Strat quack is a must. Yes it would make the girls crazy. Fun tune. We did it a few gigs with a B3 player, icing on the cake. Kay's version is a perfect instumental.

Posted: 26 Mar 2010 12:21 pm
by Jay Jessup
Not being a studio engineer I am sure I am missing some key details but I just can't understand why four competent musicians couldn't go in and knock out that tune very quickly? The explanation of how that tune was achieved was fascinating as was a similar link someone had posted a while back on ZZ Top but do you guys think it really requires all those studio pyrotechnics to get 'that' sound?
Actually Kay may have already answered that question---yes he put an effort into it but he did get it to sound real good.

Posted: 26 Mar 2010 12:26 pm
by Roman Sonnleitner
Well, that song WAS recorded in the 80s, when the excitement of all that new digital technology sometimes made people use it just becuase it was there, not because it couldn't have been done traditionally...
Also, the original does have an extremely smooth, polished, "produced" sound, recording it live with a 4-piec band would probably have led to a grittier, more "real" sound (not that that couldn't have been great either...)

Posted: 26 Mar 2010 7:06 pm
by Kay Das
I am in Waikiki for a few days, limited Internet access. Found it challenging to interpret a vocal number with three chords into an instrumental lead. The strat whammy bar effect in the original, however, gives scope for the steel guitar to offer contrast...

Posted: 26 Mar 2010 7:48 pm
by Rich Hlaves
Contrast! That is the word the sums it up.

Posted: 29 Mar 2010 12:45 pm
by seldomfed
Kay - excellent job! Have fun in Hawaii!

Posted: 1 Apr 2010 2:22 pm
by Mark Daniels
Sounds great.

The Steel was the perfect instrument choice for the melody!