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Topic: question for bill hatcher or who else |
Will Brown
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Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2010 12:32 pm |
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| ok guys and girls i am not trying to open up a can of worms here but bill i noticed on your post of your new 6 string pedal steel there was a shubb bar and i assume you used this to play my question is this useingthis type of bar can you do just about everything you need in playing bar slants etc the reason i ask i now use a standard round bar but i have a spinalcord injury that effecits my left side and cant use a round bar like i use to and i was thinkink going to a steavens or shubb bar now guys i know this might open up something i didnt mean to and lets not make it a heated topic ok i know some of the great players used a stevens bar don helms keyton roberts etc i was just wondering if it works for you and if it would help me with my problem i have tried the one with the control ring to awkward i can use a stevens ok but i thought a shubb with the bullit tip would be better thanks |
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Will Brown
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2010 1:48 pm queston for bill hatcher
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| biil i forget to tell you ill be playing non pedal |
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Bill Hatcher
From:
Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2010 5:14 pm Re: question for bill hatcher or who else
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| Will Brown wrote: |
| ok guys and girls i am not trying to open up a can of worms here but bill i noticed on your post of your new 6 string pedal steel there was a shubb bar and i assume you used this to play my question is this useingthis type of bar can you do just about everything you need in playing bar slants etc the reason i ask i now use a standard round bar but i have a spinalcord injury that effecits my left side and cant use a round bar like i use to and i was thinkink going to a steavens or shubb bar now guys i know this might open up something i didnt mean to and lets not make it a heated topic ok i know some of the great players used a stevens bar don helms keyton roberts etc i was just wondering if it works for you and if it would help me with my problem i have tried the one with the control ring to awkward i can use a stevens ok but i thought a shubb with the bullit tip would be better thanks |
I like that SP bar you see in that pic. I wish someone would make a bar like that that was a little longer and a little heavier and had the same hook end. I could use it on 12 strings.
You have a situation where your physically going to have a problem with the round bar. You need to do whatever you have to do to be able to play the guitar. Don't pay any mind to what the norm is, make your own norm! If you need a bar with cut outs in the side in order to be able to control it then get you one of those. I use the bar you see because I lift the bar and play with the end a lot for single note playing on non pedal. I hardly use any slants. I learned a variation of the Leavitt tuning on non pedal that lets you do a lot without slanting....now all the "slanters" are getting feisty...so let me say that slanting on the non pedal is a great asset, I just was not any good at it.
I have some round bars that have grooves cut in them. I don't use them as much, but I have them in case I need to get another kind of tone.
Anyone who plays the steel guitar needs to play it like they like to or they have to, in the style they like to, using whatever techniques, bars, tricks, voodoo, etc to get what they want to play played. |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 14 Feb 2010 5:35 pm
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| the shubb..sp2 with the one rounded end is a great bar. i use it for dobro and lap steel. |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 14 Feb 2010 5:38 pm
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Bill I saw a bar in a music store in Wasilla Alaska that is what you are looking for it's a bigger longer Shubb with the hook and I think it's a Robert Randolph model,it's about an hour away from where I live, if I take a little road trip this week I'll see if they still have it,Stu 
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Stu Schulman
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Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 14 Feb 2010 5:40 pm
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I was wrong it doesn't have the hook 
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 14 Feb 2010 5:50 pm
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| Hook ?? |
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Bill Hatcher
From:
Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2010 7:40 pm
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| Stu Schulman wrote: |
| Bill I saw a bar in a music store in Wasilla Alaska that is what you are looking for it's a bigger longer Shubb with the hook and I think it's a Robert Randolph model,it's about an hour away from where I live, if I take a little road trip this week I'll see if they still have it,Stu |
Thanks for thinking about me Stu! A while back, someone here on the forum had one of those RR bars for sale...the larger one. It was less than half the price of one new so I bought it. If it just had the hook on the end, it would be perfect. I even thought about taking it down to the workshop and chucking it up in a vice and cut on it some and try to put a hook on the end, but then I would have to have it rechromed.
I contacted Shubb and ask them about maybe making one, and they said if they had enough demand they might make a run of them.
I think they might sell a few of them if they made a model for 10-12 string steel guitar. The lap guys who play more than 6-8 strings would buy them. I sure would. |
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Bill Hatcher
From:
Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2010 7:48 pm
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| chris ivey wrote: |
| Hook ?? |
 See how the end of the bar has a "hook" in it. |
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Will Brown
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2010 10:22 am question for bill hatcher or who else
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| hello bill hatcher and stu thanks for you advise ill get one bill and thanks again |
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Mark van Allen
From:
Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2010 4:21 pm
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Hey, Bill, get in touch with Gary Swallows- I'm sure he'd make you one any length and shape you need.
http://www.gssteels.com/ |
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Will Brown
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2010 6:58 pm question for bill hatcher or who else
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| thanks mark for the link and the info |
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