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Topic: Setup advice please.... |
Damien Odell
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Springwood, New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 31 Jan 2010 8:55 pm |
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Hi all, I never thought I'd post one of these copedant questions....but here goes:
I'm in the process of changing one of my steels (S12)from ext E9 to the E9/B6 universal setup.
I have 8 pedals / 5 levers to play with. (LKL,LKV, LKR, RKL, RKR)
I have been researching this tuning, however it seems that everyone who uses it has a totally different setup to the next guy, so I'm a little unsure where to start.
Please send me suggestions of the most standard E9/B6 (if there is one) that I can use as a starting point. My main concern is keeping my 'E' lower on RKL and 'E' raise on LKL, and the standard A,B,C pedals. Other than that it's open slather.
I have a Joe Wright E9/B6 instructional DVD, but he doesn't let you in on his setup...which kinda makes it hard...
Anyway, any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Post them here or email me,
Many thanks,
Damien |
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Sherman Willden
From:
Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2010 8:57 am
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My apologies, Damien. I didn't read your post quite right.
Hi Damien. I have Joe Wright's E9/B6 DVD and once you go along with him on it you will see that his instruction is independent of any guitar setups. I own a Carter S12 7x5 with the boowah on the 4th pedal. I can still follow along with him because he states something like "... the pedal that raises the seventh string ... " or something like that. My pedals and levers are exactly like his when he explains what each does even though my boowah is not pedal 8. He states that his pedal 4 is an interchangeable pedal. Once you get to know his dialogue then you will do well.
Sherman
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2010 9:13 am
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I lower my Es with RKL and Raise with LKL.
My LKR folds up out of the way and rarely gets used.
When first ordering or setting up a Universal PSG.
for me it took some live experimentation.
I like a compensator on the 6th string G# for the A-F change.
Every one has preferences that may evolve as a player progresses.
In hind site I would suggest simpler is better at first.
Some of my pulls I have backed off the hex nuts in order to smooth out the action.
It is nice to have them for future experimenting.
Here is my copedant.
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2010 9:26 am
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Ken's copedent (above) is about as standard as they come. It has all of the E9th and C6th changes in all the right places.
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Sherman Willden
From:
Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2010 9:31 am
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I will have to work on posting the copedent. I tried but it didn't want to work out.
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Damien Odell
From:
Springwood, New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 2 Feb 2010 3:14 pm
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Thankyou for the responses.
That gives me a starting point,
Damien |
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Olie Eshleman
From:
Seattle, WA
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Posted 2 Feb 2010 10:03 pm
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Damien I just put in an order with Bill Rudolph for a new U12 and had the same problem you did deciding on a copedant. I found a few forum threads where people posted theirs printed them all, along with the ones b0b has on the copedants link and did some homework.
Here is my result, of course I haven't played it and can't say I think it's perfect...
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=trVBGZNmMLiIJCqzafKy7PA&output=html |
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Gil Berry
From:
Westminster, CA, USA
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Posted 3 Feb 2010 3:08 am
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| I play a universal. The copedant shown in this topic is pretty standard - except - I highly recommend that the A and B pedal changes be extended to the bottom strings. Also the 11th string E pulls with the knees to Eb and F are optional - I like the E to F but not the E to Eb. DO incorporate the B to A change on pedal 2 for the 12th string. It resolves nicely in the V-I change (no pedals to pedals down, same fret). Also changes on string 7 (F# to G# and/or F# to E) are nice. And the boo-wah should be on the first 6th pedal (usually pedal 4)...that's where it should have been all along. Also, if you can get a split to get a C on strings 5 and 9, that's a nice change when added to the boo-wah (resolve an ending from an open G# cord to a I cord C for example. Have fun! |
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