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What-No comments on Bobbe's Tips

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 12:14 pm
by Wally Taylor
After all the debate on "TONE", I can't believe someone has not taken issue with Le Bobsters Tips on tone? Does this mean he has settled it once and for all? Is there no one amongst us to challenge this man? :whoa:
Actually, I think he got it right.

Wally

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 12:34 pm
by Roger Rettig
We could just let him think he'd settled it once and for all..

What did he say?

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 12:38 pm
by Roger Crawford
Bobbe may not always be right, but he's never wrong!

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 12:58 pm
by b0b
Well, I sent my response directly to Bobbe and he had the nerve to disagree with me. :lol:

Here's what I wrote:
Regarding tone, you really can't compare steel cabinets to marimba keys - it's apples to oranges. (I play marimba, in case you didn't know.) On a marimba, the keys actually *generate* the note. The quality of the note IS the quality of the key material. On a steel guitar, the strings - not the cabinet - serve the same functions as the keys of a marimba.

You could compare the steel cabinet to the *resonator tubes* of a marimba, and you'd be closer to the mark. The resonators keep the note alive after its been struck, and the quality of their construction plays a large part in the tone of the instrument. The analogy isn't perfect, but it's a lot closer than the "marimba keys to psg cabinet" comparison.

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 1:02 pm
by Bobbe Seymour
You guys! Great coma material. I'm in one now!

The marimba guy!

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 1:21 pm
by Wally Taylor
Shall we all form a conga line now? :D
Personally, I think tone is all in the hands and black guitars and now..........marimbas!
Did you guys know Bobbe is also an accomplished drummer?
Wally

Good Genius/Bad Genius.

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 4:20 pm
by Eric West
Well I haven't read it yet, but I'm sure that he's got a better more earthling-friendly way of putting it than his Evil-Twin-Alter-Ego..

R##ce...

Love ya Bobbe.

;)

EJL

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 7:04 pm
by Jeff Evans
. . . it was pretty exciting seeing Buck run down the aisle with four bodyguards in his yellow sparkling Nudie Suit. http://www.steelguitar.net/
That does sound entertaining.

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 7:41 pm
by Frank Parish
Ok I read the newsletter and after typing a bunch of stuff and deleting all of it I'll just go with it's all relative and we have opinions on tone like we all have...noses!

Bobbe

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 7:43 pm
by Sonny Priddy
I Wish I Knew What He Knows. Don't We All? SONNY.

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 8:13 pm
by Charles Davidson
ANYTHING Mr. Seymour says is good enough for me. I would'nt want to debate him on anything about the steel guitar. YOU BETCHA.DYK?BC.

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 8:40 pm
by Kevin Hatton
Again, what did he say????

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 9:16 pm
by Roger Rettig
Dunno, Kevin - Charles was impressed!

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 9:32 pm
by Charles Davidson
Roger,I don't know what he said. I just take it for granted he was right. He's the HIGH priest of the steel guitar. I never question his opinions. No, I'm not leg humping,It's just a fact he's my favorite picker. If he has'nt done it in his career,it's NOT worth doing. YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 10:21 pm
by Kevin Hatton
Will someone please post what was said?

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 10:23 pm
by Eric West
I don't know what he said. I just take it for granted he was right. He's the HIGH priest of the steel guitar. I never question his opinions. No, I'm not leg humping,It's just a fact he's my favorite picker. If he has'nt done it in his career,it's NOT worth doing.

I think I've read that somewhere before too..

;)

EJL

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 11:04 pm
by Charles Davidson
Will someone PLEASE tell Kevin what he said. YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 11:15 pm
by Steve Norman
Kevin he said tone is good

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 11:27 pm
by Charles Davidson
Yes he said tone is good,and after a six-pack of long necks it gets REAL good. YOU BETCHA, DYK?BC.

Posted: 6 Jan 2010 5:10 am
by David Collins
Kevin,
It was something about split cases really improving the tone of an Emmons PP. :)

I sent you an e-mail.

Posted: 6 Jan 2010 5:29 am
by Ken Byng
I thought it was a very thought provoking piece of Bobbe's on steel guitar cabinets and their construction. I don't believe that anyone has yet fully managed to fully explain why the Emmons push pull has this unique clarity and extraordinary tone. However, this is the first reference that I have seen concerning the cut out section of a push pull body (that facilitates the electrics) as possibly one of the factors that could be affecting the tone. Interesting view.

All I know is that having a large amount of pedal steel guitars pass under my fingers over the years, my push pull is hugely different tone-wise to anything else that I have played.

Posted: 6 Jan 2010 5:46 am
by Larry Bell
God is great . . .
Tone is good . . .
and steel players are CRAZY.

Posted: 6 Jan 2010 6:23 am
by Don Brown, Sr.
Larry, That's a right good description. :D

Posted: 6 Jan 2010 7:25 am
by Tamara James
For a short time, you can see the newsletter here on Bobbe's website:

http://www.steelguitar.net/

on the left will be a menu, click on "newsletter"

I think this is changed everytime he puts out a new one.

Posted: 6 Jan 2010 8:23 am
by Jeff Evans
What Bobbe said was really something.